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    look believe me or not is your own matter but you cant deny that every single martial arts master but for doctor Kano where against championships...especially Funakosi and Ueshiba

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    Yeah, and look at the fucking state of aikido and none competitive karate compared with judo today.

    Just because they were masters doesn't mean they can't be wrong. Competition strengthens martial arts, it doesn't diminish them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antoname
    look believe me or not is your own matter but you cant deny that every single martial arts master but for doctor Kano where against championships


    See stupidity lurks heavily on your brow. You can't say every single then eliminate a famous Master.
    Yeah, I can actually deny it.
    Kano
    Mas Oyama

    So, now we are running at 50/50 so, name some others or you point is invalid.


    ...especially Funakosi and Ueshiba

    What's even funnier is they all competed at some point in their life. Then, mainly when they couldn't keep up with the next generation, "oh look no more competing it is bad."

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    championships are bullshit....what make so champion??some drugs and a point gaining sience....where is the true meaning of budo ONE SHOT ONE KILL????????i have a great xp in judo and kyokushin championships and i saw perfect ignorance of the values of martial arts.........



    Oh, you are lucky this is in the Kempo subforum or your post would turn into this:

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    Yeah cause that's what I do with bullshit stereotypes.

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    Claiming to not put so much value into a sport competition of martial arts doesn't = being against sport martial arts nor does it = training in something "better" or "deadlier."

    Train to be your best, not "the" best is usually the idea they are shooting for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antoname
    look believe me or not is your own matter but you cant deny that every single martial arts master but for doctor Kano where against championships...especially Funakosi and Ueshiba
    I don't have to hear anything from you, nor entertain anything you are saying. You are a liar, and the proof is in your posts:

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    As far as kickboxing goes, any style can enter, as long as they follow the rules- kickboxing isn't really a system- muay thai is a system, kyokushin kai is a system- kickboxing, is a rule set and a competition. I'd hate to see belts corrupt MMA- "I got a black belt in MMA.." or kickboxing. And as far as Judo goes, old school style Judoka could only get promoted through competition, at least that's what I heard (now this was told to me by a judo guy- I didn't read it in a manual) I'm not saying everyone should compete, but things like kickboxing or running 10k's are about the winning, not the techniques or training.

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    no new2bjj this s in our style not judo..promotion in judo has nothing to do with competition

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    Quote Originally Posted by new2bjj
    I guess I look at kickboxing as pure competition- like running, or any other sport. You are either a champion runner, or you're not. I view color belts as more like an "understanding" of the art, i.e., you could coach someone, with an understanding of the sport, without being great at it. I would hate to see belts in MMA or kickboxing- your expertise should be in the doing. I trained for 2 years at fairtex and 2 at kings boxing gym, but I do not tell people that I am a boxer or a kickboxer- I don't go to matches, so how can I say that? Now, in TKD, I know all the forms of my particular school, the kicks, the basics, etc. I could teach someone TKD. Belts are such bullshit anyway- either you're good or your mediocre or you suck. If you haven't trained in 6 years, are you really a black belt? If you can't perform the techniques, and have forgotten all your forms, should you tell all and sundry that you're a black belt? You should say- "I WAS a black belt". As a matter of fact, when it comes down to MMA and Kickboxing, the only way you should be able to say you a qualified to coach, is to show the general public who you have coached and what they have won, and are winning. After all, their are no belts in boxing, or football, etc. By the way El Macho, I say this with all respect, it's just that I have see so many people in the point karate community, who tie up all their self worth in what degree black belt they earn, while, carreer wise, they are a cable installer, or as one guy I met who ran a postage machine, told me that he was proudly wearing a Kubudo Ryu t-shirt,. Of course, I really would have preferred to stick out BJJ and get my purple....
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    i dont like competition till my best friend get punished in a tkd tournament for striking too hard..championships are not true battle...in a true fight situation you immedietly hit in vital organs...can you do it on a championship?the answer is NO...of course you can get a fighting experience by participating in competitions but this is not enough....i am fond of traditional training

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