I Must Break You Now
Posted On:8/30/2003 12:44am
does anyone find it hard to box with grappling gloves on? i find you have to decrease the range between you and the other person a lot more than you would if there were boxing gloves on your hand. does anyone have any tips on boxing while wearing grappling gloves?
Posted On:8/30/2003 1:59am
Yeah i got a tip, if you plan on doing a lot of grappling then my advice is to move away from Boxing style gloves compleately.
A set of sixteen oz gloves change the striking game considerably.
As an example in boxing with large gloves shielding is the preferable way to defend (if you cant avoid the blow compleately). However wearing grappling gloves you pretty quickly realise that shielding will only get you knocked out very quickly.
I only wear grappling gloves when i spar and i complain like a winging pansy when my partner bitches. It is however also a given that the grappling gloves are much lighter and can do a lot of damage if your going full power. As a result i tend to spar at about 70% power when im wearing grappling gloves.
Ok some tips...
1)Stop shielding and start looking for active ways to block or divert force away from you.
2) Realise that your fist is now effectively smaller and as a result it can go places it couldnt before. This also cuts both ways and you will find some punches slipping though that you where sure where not going to.
3) Take into account that body blows hurt a lot more with light gloves. Shots to the lower floating ribs or the solar plexus can be debilitating.
4)Remember you can now open your hands and you will find this is very advantageous in defence if you can make some use of it.
5) Watch a few fights with either BJ Pen or Jens Pulver, both are boxers who have addapted supperbly to the glove differences.
6) You may find you need to open your gaurd out a bit as well, many boxers have there hands very close to there bodys and this is generaly a no no for smaller gloves. As a general reference have a look at the differences in stance between the old bareknuckle boxers and todays champs. You will notice the old bareknuckle guys have a different stance (to avoid leg checks) and also have there hands in a different position (to avoid breaking there fists when they hit the face) You will notice that often the hands are held much further out in front than in modern western boxing (again to avoid things like grappling and kicking).
Enjoy man, im an internal guy and i *love* MMA gloves. Again however i have to stress if you plan on doing a lot of stuff in MMA gloves then try and avoid training in boxing gloves at all.
Edited by - waterboxer on August 30 2003 02:03:59
Posted On:8/30/2003 2:06am
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Posted On:8/30/2003 8:37am
Style: BJJ, Karate,
Never spar with boxing gloves, its counter productive.
Always spar with grappling gloves and, at your HEAVIEST, go about 60-70% power. If you want more added safety use only open hand strikes to the head and wear headgear.
Open hand haymakers closely resemble the looping punch of a brawler.
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Posted On:8/30/2003 9:51am
Guy Who Pays the Bills and Gets the Death Threats Style: MMA (Retired)
Excellent site Waterboxer.
Posted On:8/30/2003 11:30am
Style: Chinese Boxing
Boxing gloves are completely dependent on what you are doing. For basic sparring with beginners I throw them on to allow more padding and get them used to getting hit.
Grappling gloves are much more lethal and efficient. Harder to parry, easier to evade, less wear on your body except your hands. Its a give and take world. When I'm punching focus mitts or condtioning I wear the boxing gloves. Preparing for a fight; grappling.
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Posted On:8/30/2003 11:43am
No, but I have trouble grappling with boxing gloves on.
Posted On:8/30/2003 6:19pm
thanks for the tips guy, i'll try to go kick some ass in class now.
Posted On:8/30/2003 6:22pm
figure 3 on the website looks like a wing chun guard
Posted On:9/02/2003 4:00pm
Style: BJJ, No-Gi, MT
figure 3, taun sao and prayer hand
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