Much of this resembles CMA applications I've learnt, even down to the postures (stances). We never counted the movements out in Italian, though...
Originally Posted by CodosDePiedra
Can you give me some links on this branch of FMA? I'm pretty ignorant of the names and varieties of FMA, so it'd likely take me quite awhile to get on the right track via Google.
Thanks in advance.
from the logo
it looks like pekiti tirsia or some derivative of it
Some of that looks familiar but it's WAY more slappy than the stuff I've learned. Generally the slaps we learned were only to deflect or line up the trap, then after that it was hooks, overhands, straights, etc..
Originally Posted by saturnjunkie
Since I do Latosa Escrima under Rene Latosa and Sifu Emin, plus have some tiny few days with Bill Newman and Steve Tappen, I can help elaborate on this.
Rene Latosa really doesn't have a beginer program. He doesn't have time to teach you all that. He improves on what you bring to him. 90% of his students come from WT backgrounds. He does have a slightly modified LWS for us, to work with WT basics, but he really does teach the same thing to everyone. I have been to a seminar with Karate people learning this FMA right along with us Tzunners.
In EBMAS we have further refined the starting LWS stuff to be directly opposite the WT. Front stance, hooks and hammer fists and outfalling step offline to start, with single stick. There is a huge overlap in the double sticks and Doubleto Escrima programs so that is done second. The advanced cycle of kwan/gaun sau and poi pai in WT directly overlap with the advanced empty hand escrima know as Chain of Palms (Palm strikeing). Not to mention the obvious long pole to short double Dagger range the WT uses to practice the range of weapon techniques and how it relates to learning a FMA with its infinite range of weapons families..
Sifu Emin is always adimant that we keep the two systems seperate in training, it is not a MMA. You have to let them merge together naturally instead of patching together a calico quilt.
Last edited by Dr._Tzun_Tzu; 7/28/2007 3:44pm at .
"If anything is gained from this, it should be you both wanting to get better so you can make up for how crappy you are now." KidSpatula about the Sirc vs DTT Gong Sau Event
Until the Bulltube is fixed:
DTT vs Sirc
That one's panantukan and others. Panantukan is a good source to look up FMA unarmed fighting. People (Like the Dog Brothers) believe that panantukan actually changed boxing from its upright palms up extended guard to the head moving hands in close palms inward guard. Early Filipino fighters during the US occupation brought interesting stuff to boxing (like Ceferino Garcia). Others say its the addition of gloves and a different ruleset. I think its a little of both and probably a bunch of other things.
Originally Posted by jackrusher
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