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  1. Ke?poFist is offline
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    Enforcer of Northeast Anti-Silliness Department Inc.

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    Miletich Dirty Laundry, or Internet Rumor BS Artist?

    http://patmiletich.faithweb.com/

    The above link is to a site that does not cite sources, but claims numerous incredibly damaging allegations to many notable names in the Miletich camp including Matt Hughes, Jens Pulver, and even Pat Miletich himself.

    The man running the site is Ramon Vasquez of Mexicali, Mexico. His contact information is below. I have sent out an email requesting sources for his allegations. I personally am blown away by what's said on there, and I can only wonder if he realizes that if any of this is not true, how much legal trouble he could end up in.

    RamonVasquez2@yahoo.com

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    The fighters part was hilarious. If it is true, it's even better. Especially the part about Matt Hughes sleeping with that other fighter's wife. I am surprised that Tim Sylvia isn't getting slandered on there though, I thought he is hated at least as much as Matt Hughes.
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    The most troubling accusations are that Pat is affiliating his gym with those run by felons, and that many of these operations are not qualified to teach MMA other then their use of the Miltech name.

    Accusations however are not proof, I'll reserve judgment until Vasquez comes up with evidence.
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    I wonder where in the hell Vasquez gets all his info from! He sure seems to know alot about MFS.
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    The funniest part is that this clown lives in Mexico, maybe to avoid lawsuits or retaliation on the part of MFS. The guy was probably some psycho e-warrior who got thrown out of MFS, or has some bizarre fantasy going on between him and a few big name UFC fighters. Stalkers have done stranger things than this.
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    5/20/2007 9:01pm

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    Or he's using the name of someone down in Mexico.
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    I have my doubts about some of the accusations. From what I understand, Pat Miletech actually gathers the instructors of the affiliate schools at Iowa and tests their skills. While they are in Iowa, they get a chance to train with many MFS fighters. This makes me curious about where his "more than 60%" number comes from.

    I don't see a lot of information about sources for these allegations. This may be a lot of mudslinging from someone with an axe to grind.

    What exactly are the laws on libel in Mexico?
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    I haven't a clue. I suspect they are more plaintiff friendly then here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoodedmonk
    I wonder where in the hell Vasquez gets all his info from! He sure seems to know alot about MFS.
    * I have no Miletich affiliation at all. *

    Most of this is rumours picked up from different boards on the net. I've heard most of it over the last year or so (The one about Matt made the pass on MMA.tv about 8-9 months ago). The funny thing is some of the 'easier to substantiate' rumours are avoided in place of ones of infidelity.

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    It's weird. This smells more like a personal vendetta than an investigation of fraud. As disgusting as the claims of infidelity may be (and even if they are true), why are they made alongside accusations of fraud and association with fellons?

    I personally don't give a **** if the MFS guys are fucking each other wives or if they like it in the ass. That's their personal ****. If they were preachers of the 700 Club preaching about morality and against the very same things they are (supposedly) doing, that would be another topic...

    ... a topic more appropriate to sociocide.

    That whole website run by a guy supposedly in Mexico (I smell alias), it sounds bullshit.
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