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    It's all about the clinch. The clinch, I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chingythingy
    My only input to this thread is that if you are in Manhattan and are arguing the merits of no-gi jiu-jitsu or submission grappling, and in conjunction with that have not visited Marcelo Garcia's school

    http://www.marcelogarciajj.com/academy.html

    then your stupidity defies any logic, argument, or input.
    Wanted to add this in response to the above poster: Yes. Yes it does.

    I started training there recently. I don't have much to add as I am a shitty grappler, but I have noticed that training in the gi has improved my no-gi grappling. I do two days a week in the gi and two without it on a good week.

    The two places I noticed the most benefit is this:

    When rolling the gi helps me hold my weight down better because its harder for the guy on the bottom to just slip out, thereby giving my a few extra seconds to consciously drop my weight down. I don't have much of a top game but thats been changing because of this. Actually all thats changed is that I get position better on top. Submitting people is next.

    And the second thing is that I've noticed my escapes getting better because I have to pay better attention to where my arms and legs are all the time with gi.
    Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
    and remember what peace there may be in silence.
    As far as possible, without surrender,
    be on good terms with all persons.
    Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
    and listen to others,
    even to the dull and ignorant;
    they too have their story.

    -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.
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    This thread predates the opening of the Garcia school
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    It's all about the clinch. The clinch, I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
    This thread predates the opening of the Garcia school
    Thanks, man. Hadn't felt like a dumbass yet tonight, I appreciate you helping me out with that.....:eusa_wall

    While I didn't know that, from things I've heard about the gracie barra here, it doesn't really change my opinion.

    Edited to add: I'm not shitting on the gracie school, I just think I'd enjoy the training more at studio x than at the gracie place for a variety of reasons, none of which is a reflection on the quality of their school.

    Things like friendlier members, mixed classes, instructors and the like.
    Last edited by JP; 11/06/2007 8:20pm at .
    Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
    and remember what peace there may be in silence.
    As far as possible, without surrender,
    be on good terms with all persons.
    Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
    and listen to others,
    even to the dull and ignorant;
    they too have their story.

    -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JP
    Things like friendlier members, mixed classes, instructors and the like.
    These aren't relevant in regards to the quality of the school?
    Never mind, don't really care given that I'm far away.
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