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  1. superawesome is offline

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    Interesting Passage in a book about security

    I'm reading a book "Beyond Fear" by Bruce Schneier. This book is about security and how to think about security in general. In a section that talks about training and practice he says:

    "The more people who are trained, the more likely it is that someone will be able to do whatever needs to be done. And during practice, you can develop new and better procedures. Procedures aren't very useful without training and constant practice. . . When security events are rare, people don't gain experience dealing with them. Any system that is rarely used will fail when used. Practice solves that problem. One goal of training and practice is for people to react relfexively and instintively in a crisis situation instead of having to ponder what to do next.
    . . .

    Knowledge, experience, and familiarity all matter. When a security event occurs, it is important that those who have to respond to the attack know what they have to do because they've done it again and again, not because they read it in a manual five years ago"

    I just thought it was interesting because this book about the aspects of security presented a nice argument that can be used to show that sparring is esential for any martial art to be useful as self defense.

    Though I'm not saying anything new, I though the argument was so general and so pertinent, that I though I would share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spartan6
    That is a good passage however no matter how much you practice in a controlled enviroment it will never amount to the real thing.

    Sparring is good practice and exercise but it's not the real thing.
    Would you have an alternative to practicing and sparring?

    Or was what you just said useless?

    I really enjoyed that book by the way.
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    He's a gimmick poster. His style is the Japanese word for rock-paper-scissors.

    Also, in sparring, you can't use teh deadly so it's pointless. It's all about the katas, my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickeroon1987
    He's a gimmick poster. His style is the Japanese word for rock-paper-scissors.
    Ch'amon now, I'm Japanese I know what Janken is.

    I think everyone knows he's an idiot, I guess I just had to bite for some reason...
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    Quote Originally Posted by spartan6
    That is a good passage however no matter how much you practice in a controlled enviroment it will never amount to the real thing.

    Sparring is good practice and exercise but it's not the real thing.
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    5/18/2007 4:26am

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    The idea is that you make your practice as close to the "real thing" as possible. So if the real thing happens, which is most likely a rare event, you know how to react.
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    So, in other words, everybody should be packing an assault weapon and an ICBM for good measure, and practice using them at every opportunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spartan6
    That is a good passage however no matter how much you practice in a controlled enviroment it will never amount to the real thing.

    Sparring is good practice and exercise but it's not the real thing.
    Oh my god it's the street..... get your childern, run to the hill..... no there's no time, IT'S THE STREET!!!
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    Blah blah *sob story* blah blah *sparring hurts me* blah blah....

    Martial arts of any kind are not for defending yourself from Machine Gun wielding warlords and their minions. But sparring is the only way to effectively prepare yourself for the situations that Martial Arts ARE meant to defend you from. Not sparring just because it won't help you against an army of Uzi wielding maniacs is just as stupid as not sparring because it won't help you against an meteor strike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracky McSlugHoot
    So, in other words, everybody should be packing an assault weapon and an ICBM for good measure, and practice using them at every opportunity.
    Soldiers (USMC, Army) practice killing the enemy in peace time without ever killing. When war breaks out, they do what they have been trained to do.

    It's all about the kata, man.
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