Horse Stance FTW!!!

[Ming Loyalist]

Hindu squats and other bodyweight exercises were available, and there used to be heavy weights back in the day, too (they provided ballast for the Mayflower, you know). Kung fu has lots of interesting weight lifting devices and methods.

sand or water filled jars were a traditional weight training tool as well, and they work well, especially as they are difficult to hold, and build grip strength as well as arm/shoulder strength.

i think it's great that people have come back to such old school training devices as club bells and kettle bells... just goes to show that new technology is not necessarily better (weight machines, etc.)

[Cullion]

Hindu squats and other bodyweight exercises were available, and there used to be heavy weights back in the day, too (they provided ballast for the Mayflower, you know). Kung fu has lots of interesting weight lifting devices and methods.

I don't think the use of bodyweight isometrics like holding a horse stance was done just because of the different technology available. Even today it's easy to find yourself for a few days without access to a weights room.

It's a bit of a tangent but related: there's an old thread where Taebomaster (a well qualified fitness trainer whose opinion AIUI pretty much everybody respected regarding every aspect of physical training when he still posted here) started experimenting with dynamic tension routines for strength, and was logging the effects and was getting results that surprised and impressed him IIRC (he was a very skeptical science-based BJJ practitioner, no background in CMA that I know of).

He got the routines he was using by a book on dynamic tension written by a CMA teacher whose name I don't recall.

[Cullion]

Here is the thread:-
http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...ynamic+tension

The book was by Harry Wong.

[Jack Rusher]

sand or water filled jars were a traditional weight training tool as well, and they work well, especially as they are difficult to hold, and build grip strength as well as arm/shoulder strength.

An old-school weighted stance variation is seen ~00:16 in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxgNuEO1j30

Shi Yan Ming is actually a good example for this purpose. The guy probably can't fight because he doesn't practice fighting, but anyone who says his conditioning program isn't working is crazy. My suspicion concerning the orange-robed gymnasts is that they kept all the traditional conditioning methods ("marrow and tendon change") but stopped training for combat (sparring hard, and so on).

[nomamao]

An old-school weighted stance variation is seen ~00:16 in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxgNuEO1j30

Shi Yan Ming is actually a good example for this purpose. The guy probably can't fight because he doesn't practice fighting, but anyone who says his conditioning program isn't working is crazy. My suspicion concerning the orange-robed gymnasts is that they kept all the traditional conditioning methods ("marrow and tendon change") but stopped training for combat (sparring hard, and so on).

Breaking demo :evil4:

[lazy guru]

the horse satnce is a good training stance but now throwing you must drop your center into there center load them in this process your stainding with knee's bent, you load them when you have both legs straight and then rotate and throw . punching from a horse stance well you would change stance from your horse stance to rotate your hipps into the punch so that means your using your body to throw the punch not your arm strenth