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  1. King Sleepless is offline
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    What do you guys think of the MP7?

    Thoughts and opinions?

    I know the MP7 is the successor of the MP5. But other than that, I really have no clue. Anybody?
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    I think if I had to choose a "Personal Defense Weapon" I'd probably go with the FN P90 over the MP7. It's been around longer, has a larger ammo capacity and would be less snag-prone than the MP7 since its magazine loads along the top.

    That being said, I haven't fired either and I'm going off spec sheets. I certainly wouldn't mind giving them a try if someone happens to have one lying around.
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    From what I've read, it appears H&K is competing with FN for PDW bragging rights with the MP7 and the H&K-UCP. I love H&K aesthetics but the price is always a kick in the nuts. The Five-seveN and the P90 already have proven awesome-ness.
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    I think it's a case of the Germans trying to keep up with the Belgians. Weapons like that have a limited range, require multiple hits to incapacitate, cost a fucking mint, and in general are very mission specific.

    Firearms got as good as they're going to get about 30 years ago. Maybe the 6.8 is a good compromise between 7.62 and 5.56 but until caseless rounds are perfected all you're seeing is old ideas in extremely expensive new wrapping.
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    I dunno, it looks like something out of Halo to me. Of course, the P90 does too sort of, but from what I hear it's a better weapon.

    And that's a good point, SFGOON.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFGOON
    I think it's a case of the Germans trying to keep up with the Belgians. Weapons like that have a limited range, require multiple hits to incapacitate, cost a fucking mint, and in general are very mission specific.

    Firearms got as good as they're going to get about 30 years ago. Maybe the 6.8 is a good compromise between 7.62 and 5.56 but until caseless rounds are perfected all you're seeing is old ideas in extremely expensive new wrapping.
    right on

    but speaking of 6.8, has anyone tried that Stag 6.8 AR-15?
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    as far as airsoft goes, mp7 is more unique and looks cooler, and thus a better choice of toy imo.
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    Think the idea of a PDW is kinda poor.

    You man to tell me a clerk or mechanic is going to be able to hit **** with that MP7? No way
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFGOON
    Firearms got as good as they're going to get about 30 years ago.
    From a materials engineering perspective alone, this is incredibly pessimistic.
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