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  1. zolee is offline

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    autodefence-WT

    hi, anybody heard of Nick Smartīs autodefence WT is it worth of time??
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    Quote Originally Posted by zolee
    hi, anybody heard of Nick Smartīs autodefence WT is it worth of time??
    no and no.
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    WT

    hi, anybody heard of Nick Smart autodefence WT? Is it worth of time?
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    isol8d already replied to you dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zolee
    hi, anybody heard of Nick Smart autodefence WT? Is it worth of time?
    yes, I've heard of him now. some guy named Zolee came on to this forum and asked about him earlier. So I looked at his website Autodefence, which btw, my spell check hates.

    So one of their teachers in Slovenia, seems to have a student by the name of Mirko Filipovic, but I doubt I'd call what I've seen that guy do Wing Chun.

    The video of "self defense" excercises looked like bad sticky hands.

    "Many organisations in the U.K. are based around teaching Wing Chun in a short space of time. I learn with the company AutoDefence (www.autodefence.com), the founder of which is Master Nick Smart, who had regretted that he had "wasted" 25 years of his life learning Wing Chun the ancient way, and set up AutoDefence, offering a new condensed system which compacted the entire 25 year course down to just 2 and a half - the AutoDefence programme takes 226 hours, at up to 2 hours a week at your choosing. Imagine that, learning a martial art that is twice as devastating as other forms in half the time, at half the cost! "

    I'll let that statement speak for itself.
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    sorry

    sorry for the second post i just canīt see the first 2 postīs and for my english too :D
    Well so far I went to 1 seminar and I liked it enough to want to train with the group
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    25 years? That's gotta be a stretch...how can you train in something for 25 years before realizing you have a problem with it?
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    Hmm. Nick Smart himself is Ok(he used to Run the British Branch of the IWTA but choose to leave and start up his own system) but i'm not entirely convinced about his 'autodefence' system.
    Looks a bit ****.
    Last edited by Bear1980; 5/15/2007 6:18am at .
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    Video page on a website linked by the main Autodefence site:

    http://www.autoobrana.sk/videogaleria.htm

    Everything looks very very dead, without true resistance from a live opponent. Reminds me of my time in wing chun, with our sifu constantly telling us to "respect your partner's techniques" (in other words, let them execute whatever technique they were going for)

    Also I see zero grappling of any kind, alive or dead.

    It's not bullshido, per se, it's just more wing chun in a shiny new package. Draw your own conclusions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ma1234
    Video page on a website linked by the main Autodefence site:

    http://www.autoobrana.sk/videogaleria.htm

    Everything looks very very dead, without true resistance from a live opponent. Reminds me of my time in wing chun, with our sifu constantly telling us to "respect your partner's techniques" (in other words, let them execute whatever technique they were going for)

    Also I see zero grappling of any kind, alive or dead.

    It's not bullshido, per se, it's just more wing chun in a shiny new package. Draw your own conclusions.
    Okay we had our grappling blow up already, it isn't a valid criticism of a stand up art.

    Actually, it looks like WC with a new name. The vids are poor in the fact they are doing those damn elbow, no shoulder, no power chain punches.
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