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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhthekid
    1) do wrestling shoes count as martial arts shoes?

    2) uhhh if women can't hit to the chest, that means that can only head hunt / hit to the legs?

    3) what weight classes are there?

    4) how long does it take to get to maryland?

    5) can anyone compete?

    1-no
    2-yeah, its one of the few shitty things about this rule set
    3- look at the website
    4-duh
    5-no. CMA only, unless you are lucky enough to find an open competition. One year, in the midwest it was open to non-CMA. Only two competitors joined in from that.

    No one in those vids is a professional, many are getting their first taste of full contact competition. They allow for throws, takedowns, elbows, knees, and leg kicks to the outside of the leg. The rules strictly enforce engagement with no hesitating, and the fights are short but intense. The safety gear is minimal, those gloves barely do anything, and the head gear sucks and does nothing to absorb impact, only preventing cuts. There's a general unspoken rule, and that is anyone who steps up on the lei tai gets respect from everyone else, win or lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odacon
    Fighting on a raft? That's be the best looking thing ever! I have to do that!
    When I was reading about the Lei Tai comps on the water the article stated that they have guys who tread water all around the raft so they can pull a fighter to safety if he gets knocked unconscious and ends up in the water.
    Looks like it would be a blast.
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    I've been to this tournament twice. The lei tai is about the only good thing in there. I didn't fight on it, but in retrospect, I wish I had. The tournament itself is just a giant money making scheme, from all the stands selling stuff to the entrance fee, to the banquet, and the other events they have.

    When I went, the Lei Tai was on an actual platform.

    Also they say it's international, but really most of the people there are from the Maryland/DC/Virginia area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EternalRage
    I've been to this tournament twice. The lei tai is about the only good thing in there. I didn't fight on it, but in retrospect, I wish I had. The tournament itself is just a giant money making scheme, from all the stands selling stuff to the entrance fee, to the banquet, and the other events they have.
    agreed about the lei tai being the best part

    When I went, the Lei Tai was on an actual platform.
    the non-platform footage was prolly from the reigonal

    Also they say it's international, but really most of the people there are from the Maryland/DC/Virginia area.
    well the guy who kicked my ass came from puerto rico and the former champion was from brazil, so international people do attend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ming Loyalist
    well the guy who kicked my ass came from puerto rico and the former champion was from brazil, so international people do attend.
    They do, I met a guy from Brazil as well when I went, it's just not as international as they would like you to believe. Most of the schools that attend are the same ones you would see in the DC tournament that Wong's holds every summer, I've also seen some of them at a tournament or two in Pennsylvania as well.
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    Ever know of anyone who fought on the waterborne platform Ming?
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    eternal rage - i'd say the biggest problem with it being "international" is the total lack of chinese or taiwanese schools represented.

    ozz - i'd never even heard of the raft lei tai before this thread.

    and the guy from my school who was the flyweight champion doesn't compete anymore, but he teaches class on sundays. i've tried to get him to come to a throwdown, but never got him to come. oh well.
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    Mike Patterson (Xing-yi and CMA-sit) has trained guys for this and they did well. While not from Taiwan, he trained there....does that count?
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    I know when I went to the "international" leitai (where I didn't compete) a couple of years ago, I met the entire team from SPAIN (which I only watched a couple of them compete in the non-contact sparring :(). I also met a couple of German refs, and some other people, but yeah... most of the people come from around the tourney. I think it only makes sense.

    Raft lei tai? That sounds nuts. I'd wonder what happens for the poor guy that can't swim. Also, how nuts is it to get back in there and fight soaking wet? Or, is it that they get knocked off the raft, and that's it? If so, that's some short fight time.
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    The Maryland leitai fights are the fruit of much work by a small community of serious CMA guys to bring proper full-contact fighting to the US CMA community, insurance premiums be damned. Anthony Goh, Tai Yim and Shawn Liu are all serious dudes who know how to fight and prefer that CMA be taught for that purpose.

    When the first full-contact matches were held, they were essentially no gear matches between the toughest guys from each of the aforementioned schools, then light boxing gloves were added and the event was called "kuo shu" (which is another name for kung fu in Mandarin), then a few rules and regulation gloves were added and it was called "san shou" or "san da" (free fighting) which brought it into line with what was happening with kickboxing in mainland China, and lastly, "lei tai" (which is just the name of the platform, but has come to mean this set of gear and rules). I fought in the old-school matches, the kuo shu fights, the san shou and the san da, and once on the lei tai with san da rules and gear + the "ring out" rule (leave the platform, lose the fight). The quality of the fighters who made it to the finals was uniformly high in terms of stand up and throws (it was a striking thing, no submission grappling).

    I haven't been to that tournament in years, so I can't say what it's like now, and I've never fought with that impossibly stupid cage on my head, but I'm willing to bet that those of you who think of Paulie Zink when you think of kung fu would be pleasantly surprised by how hard these guys hit. The rest of the tournament is kids in silk pajamas doing pretty forms; nice if you like that kind of thing, but I'm guessing most of you don't.

    It's a three hour drive from NYC, or you can take the Dragon Coach (Chinese run private bus line) from NYC's Chinatown or Midtown for ~$25/RT.
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