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    Interesting. I What about boxing vs muay thai? I think that would be an interesting debate to explore.

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    Boxing makes you retarded, Muay Thai makes you retarded AND gimpy

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosetherumfoodle
    As far as I can see no one has put forth any convincing arguments to show that boxing is more technical then bjj.
    Tom did. Massively restricted targeting options and tools require a much greater refinement (TECHNIQUE) in utilizing those tools.

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    I don't totally agree but whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goosetherumfoodle
    As far as I can see no one has put forth any convincing arguments to show that boxing is more technical then bjj.

    Limiting options requires the few remaining choices a person can use to be raised to a level of technical proficiency well over and above a more permissive rule set. Queensbury rules mean you can't decide to clinch and pull guard because your opponent is better at stand-up. Your only alternative is to to raise your ability to box and punch with power to the next level.


    Edit: UpaLumpa beat me to it. And, Soju - Joe has 't3h correct' on Boxing vs. Muay Thai.
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    I find doing anything where I'm not laying down more complicated.


    I guess I'm just that damn lazy.

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    It depends on what you mean by "harder".

    I think boxing and BJJ are about equally technical, but boxing is a bit "harder" because you have to enact that technique much faster than you do with BJJ.

    Doing things quickly in BJJ certainly /helps/, but you can do things slowly if you have sufficient control. I'm sure everyone here (who's taken BJJ) has at some point rolled with a higher belt who was rolling slow and soft and kicking your ass anyway. No matter how good a boxer you are, you're not going to be throwing jabs in slow motion. It's a faster situation, which demands more split-second decisions on technique.

    There's also the fact that although you can get hurt much worse in BJJ (I've been injured far worse in grappling than I ever have in striking), over the course of a /normal/ roll you're not actually going to experience that much pain. In boxing you are being punched in the face, and it takes a while to get used to that. Some people never do.

    I don't think one is superior to the other overall, and they both require a lot of hard work and talent to become good at, but there are definitely aspects in which boxing is significantly harder than BJJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FictionPimp
    I find doing anything where I'm not laying down more complicated.


    I guess I'm just that damn lazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherdog
    There's also the fact that although you can get hurt much worse in BJJ (I've been injured far worse in grappling than I ever have in striking), over the course of a /normal/ roll you're not actually going to experience that much pain. In boxing you are being punched in the face, and it takes a while to get used to that. Some people never do.

    While I agree that BJJ can cause more daily injury, the repeated blows to the head in boxing scare me more in the long run. There have been several different posters here who have stated they stopped boxing because it caused the to stutter or some other temporary mental impairment.

    I have heard it discussed that the punch drunk slow speaking PRO boxer gets that way not so much from the beatings in the fights but in the constant banging necessary for hard sparring to prepare and train properly.

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    Am I the only one impressed by the fact that this guy can roll for an hour straight of hard sparring without even being winded? I get gassed after five 3-min rounds.

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