Posted On:9/11/2003 11:20am
What question? What, really, is your point?
i do not summarise my arguments because is useless. my point is that you attacked me without any reason in a very rude and unfriendly way. i have just answered to your behaviours. when you want to debate with me and argue in a civilised manner i am available.
Posted On:9/11/2003 11:23am
I completely concur with treating peple with respect. I agree that you have not been treated that way totally and also that you have not treated others that way.
My question was really directed to your dislike of dishonesty and I wondered if you had used any dishonesty or subterfuge in this thread in anyway.
It seems that if you dislike dishonesty, then you should in turn be honest yourself.
Posted On:9/11/2003 11:42am
i have been honest in saying what my experience was and is, if people read my post (although i write very quickly an with a bad keyboard, so sometimes i mispell some words)they undrstand that i am pretty knowledgeable unfortunately i do not fit the dominant ideologies of this forum
TMA=****, MMA ultimate fighting system
the reality of martial arts is more complex and it is not simplistic, there are sport commercialised traditional martial arts and self defence orientated and reality based one. I just tried to make this point clear and look what happened.
i like to argue and debate about points and exchange ideas, this should be the aim of the forum. in saying my experinec and my background i have been honest maybe too much, obviously that if i am attacked i have to answer back.
i just stress another point,when there is a traditional martial art forum every can intervene but for g.. sake at least contribute in a positive way not intervene saying dipshit, dumbass and so on. I wonder then if this people would be able to say the same thing in my face directly and not from a pc screen but this is another topic
Posted On:9/11/2003 11:45am
i really like your profile
"Kicking into the dust all trolls who irritate real martial artists"
i agree and i did it
Posted On:9/11/2003 11:59am
Delta, I will refrain from commenting about what these guys would say to your face. I will say that you would apparently say whatever you say here to someones face, and I assure you that the guys you are engaging on here will stand and look you in the eye also.
On the honesty question, I was really wanting to know if you felt you were being honest by creating another persona to come on and call other posters trolls, and am interested in if you will deny that you did so, or are you going to claim that someone else used your computer to post as franky.
You did bring up the honesty issue, so I thought you might want to be totally honest yourself. I don't believe you need a ficticious persona to come behind you to support you, do you?
Posted On:9/11/2003 12:31pm
listen i do not accept honesty lesson from anyone
you are defending people that call othe posters dipshit and so on without any provocation. i will answer to yuo when you answer to me why in this forum if you do not fit the dominat ideologies you are abused ?
second i do not know what is you job my job is to answer in a very effective way to threaten,i also teach karate so i am really not bother about people who look in my eyes or not.
DDR you should have intervene when they attacked me and as moderator you should have not taking any parts and invite to a civilised discussion you failed unfortunately
Posted On:9/11/2003 12:37pm
therefore if you want to have a democratic forum, you should care about these simple rules.
you say you are a martial artists, ok so the first rule is to respect others, at least in my dojo i teaches that.
then i am not repsonsible if some fom my dojo the pc to joke, however we have to say that with the people that i have speaking to a doubt about this forum is a joke can arise unfortunately.
by the way an advice try to be more superpartes (this is the line of a moderator)from your reply people have understood at which side you are
if you are superpartes comdemn this behaviour and say sorry for all the abuses i had to stand
Neutral, or nearly so
Posted On:9/11/2003 12:39pm
delta's to do list:
1. Find the spell checker on his computer.
2. Find an english tutor (shouldn't be hard, he lives in england).
3. Answer Anthony's request for verification of the claims that he himself made (you said, it you back it up delta).
4. Realize that several people on this forum easily outclass him in forming logical arguments.
5. Realize that no one thinks karate is ineffective, just that the majority of MAINSTREAM tma teaching methods are.
6. Realize that there are probably gaps in all systems and that trying to learn from a system that FOCUSES on one of those gaps is a good thing. Learning is always a good thing.
7. Realize that insulting people and then acting indignant when insulted back makes you appear to be a sorry ***** asshole.
8. Realize that claiming other's arguments are poorly written and ill thought out when your own writing is at a 2nd grade level is a sure way to earn disdain.
9. Realize throwing out random phrases that are wrong contextually earns you additional disdain.
10. Realize that citing people who attribute supernatural powers to themselves doesn’t lend your arguments credibility.
Posted On:9/11/2003 12:58pm
Dochter's do list,
1. TAKE CARE OF HIS OWN BUSINESS.
2. Find an english tutor (shouldn't be hard, he lives in england)OK I WILL ONLY IF YOU FIND A TUTOR FOR YOUR STUPIDITY.
3. I HAVE ANSWERED AND CITED MIKE LORDEN BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU DO NOT BOTHER READING, HOWEVER IT IS NOT A SURPRISE BECAUSE MAYBE YOU ARE UNABLE TO DO THAT
4. Realize that several people on this forum easily outclass him in forming logical arguments YES YOU ARE RIGHT WITH THE STUPIDS YOU ARE ALWAYS WRONG EVEN IF YOU SHOW EVIDENCE, SIMPLE THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND, THICKS LIKE A MAKIWARA EH!!!.
5. Realize that no one thinks karate is ineffective, just that the majority of MAINSTREAM tma teaching methods are.FROM THE REPLIES THAT CANNOT BE DELETED (GO AND READ)MANY CLAIMED THAT IN KARATE THERE WERE NOT GRAPPLING AND THROWING+ WHEN I TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT THEY WERE WRONG (I TEACH KARATE AND ATTEND STAGES AROUND EUROPE) SOME SAID THAT KARATE IS INEFFECTIVE IN COMBAT I CITED FILHO AND HUG (HOPEFULLY YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE)CALLED ME DIPSHIT ETC...... SOME MATE LEAVE IT ALONE
6. Realize that there are probably gaps in all systems and that trying to learn from a system that FOCUSES on one of those gaps is a good thing. Learning is always a good thing.O I WISE YOU ARE JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION: I AM A BLACK BELT IN JUDO (FILPJ), I AM A BLACK BELT IN SHOTOKAN (ISKF-JKA), MATSUBAYAHI RYU, I HAVE STUDIED KYOKUSHINKAI AND I CURRENTLY TRAIN IN NIPPON KEMPO SO MAYBE DON'T YOU THINK THAT I KNOW THAT EINSTEIN!!!!!
7. Realize that insulting people and then acting indignant when insulted back makes you appear to be a sorry ***** asshole. i HAVE BEENINSULTED FIRT AND I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND A REPLY WHERE I INSULTED FIRST. EINSTEIN THE FACT THE YOU TELL ME THAT MY ENGLISH IS **** I DO YOU CALL IN YOUR HOME A COMPLIMENT????? WHO KNOWS YOU MATE?? PISS OFF (MY REPLY)REMEMBER (BY THE WAY I HAVE A BSC FIRST CLASS IN SPORT SCIENCES)TO EVERY ACTION THERE IS AN EQUAL REACTION EINSTEIN!!!!!!
8. Realize that claiming other's arguments are poorly written and ill thought out when your own writing is at a 2nd grade level is a sure way to earn disdain.THIS IS FUNNY WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE IS NOT A COMMA,MATE YOUR ENGLISH IS NOT VERY GOOD EITHER. WHEN YOU ORGANISE BETTER THIS PHRASE MAYBE I WILL ANSWER
9. Realize throwing out random phrases that are wrong contextually earns you additional disdain.AGAIN EVERY ACTION PROVOKE AN EQUAL AND IN MY CASE STRONG REACTION
10. Realize that citing people who attribute supernatural powers to themselves doesn’t lend your arguments credibility.WHO CITED WHAT????????? TELL ME A NAME AND THE THREAD WHERE I MENTIONED THESE SO CALLED PEOPLE
"You know, I have said already, I don't even know what your point is, what you are arguing. The only disagreement between the two of us appears to be that I claim that you are a functional illiterate, and you disagree." DELTAFORCE TO WASTREL, 11/9/03.
Posted On:9/11/2003 1:09pm
7. Realize that insulting people and then acting indignant when insulted back makes you appear to be a sorry ***** asshole. i HAVE BEEN INSULTED FIRST AND I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND A REPLY WHERE I INSULTED FIRST. EINSTEIN THE FACT THAT YOU TELL ME THAT MY ENGLISH IS **** HOW DO YOU CALL IN YOUR HOME, A COMPLIMENT????? WHO KNOWS YOU MATE?? PISS OFF (MY REPLY)REMEMBER (BY THE WAY I HAVE A BSC FIRST CLASS IN SPORT SCIENCES)TO EVERY ACTION THERE IS AN EQUAL REACTION EINSTEIN!!!!!!
BETTER NOW (SORRY WHEN I AM PISSED OFF I TYPE QUICKLY)
BY THE WAY, TO RIDICULE ANOTHER PERSON BECAUSE OF ITS INABILITY TO EXPRESS HIMSELF IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE IS NOT A CLASSY MOVE MATE.ESPECIALLY IF YOU USE IT TO DESTROY THE ARGUMENTS OF THIS PERSON, SO A BIT MORE CLASS.
I KNOW THAT IS AN US SITE AND I AM EUROPEAN AND WE EUROPEAN ARE MORE ACCUSTOM TO CLASS BUT I THOUGHT THAT IN THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY THIS DIVIDE WAS SHORTENING
OH BEH SILLY ME!!!! (I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS IN THE US IN THE MARTIAL ARTS HOPE THEY DO NOT GET PISSED WITH ME BUT THEY WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THIS CONSIDERATION WAS FOR THIS PARTICULAR FORUM WERE DIPSHIT AND SHITHEAD ARE USED AS HELLO)
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