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  1. franky is offline

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    the wanstrel and slj are fucking trolls!!!!
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    vapour sorry this is not true, get any books that speak about the history of the okinawa karate and you will read that even if kung fu influenced okinawa karate, karate or tode was an indigenous system of self defence therefore your argument is incorrect, okinawa karate id not a style of kung fu.
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    *DMX style* *Bark bark* Get im, boys.

    You still haven't given an excuse for Karate (shotokan or otherwise) continually losing.


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    >The wanstrel and slj are fucking trolls!!!!


    ROTFL! @ "Wanstel"

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    "You still haven't given an excuse for Karate (shotokan or otherwise) continually losing"

    i do not know which karate you are speaking about, i only know that one of the best K1 fighter was Andy Hug with an history of kyokushinkai,seido and shotokan karate.

    however, it was not my aim to give any excuses
    1)it is the fighter and not the system that has lost, as i said before make an Andy Hug or a mas oyama(with a strong long,medium ,close and ground fighting skills- the normal training for an okinawa style of karate)fighting with that grappler and you would have seen a different outcome.
    2)my style is not sport karate, but classic okinwan karate: we learn fighting at long,medium,close range, we have throwing and grappling techniques, we do bogu kumite' full contact fights that include striking throws and grappling. If some clever persons (not people that intervene only for the sake of saying some stupidity)would say, look deltaforce karate is mainly a striking system, till a certain extent i would agree. okinawa karate (i am not referring to commercialised sport karate) uses mainly powerful striking techniques on vulnerable points, however there are indeed throwing and grappling. to exemplify in a self defence situation an okinawan karateka would firstly strike (most of the time pre emptively) to a vulnerable point of the opponent, if this tactic does not work and you start to grapple he has the skills to intervene and in anyway possible(headbutts,bites, throwing,strike on throat and eyes,ground fighting) to finish the situation as soon as possible. this is the tactic of okinawan karate (not westernised commercialised sport karate) then obviously even a fool like wanstrel would understand that it depends also by the fighters who is more skillfull SURVIVE (i say survive and not win because okinawan karate is a pretty violent business and takes into consideration every way to put down an assailant, IT IS NOT A SPORT!!!)we prepare people to realistic self defence situations and we make them accustom,through full contact sparring, to stand pain
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    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
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    "I have seen dillman in action and even if its system is difficult to learn becuse youhave to be very exacton the meridian and pressure points believ me when learn it it works."
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
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    second if BJJ or simple JJ is so good in self defence why (and believe me a know that!! for my work)the best government security agencies all around the world do not use it to train their recruits??? they use krav maga, wing chun, karate (kyokushinkai and okinwan) and so on.
    Joker. What do you know? Really. Quit posing.
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
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    another thing: who has made up full contact???? not the americans, but the okinwans, the americans(us marine in service in okinwa) brought the concept after having seen a classicbogy kumite' (competiton with KO and full contact)
    Oh my...
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
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    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
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