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    Last edited by Tom Kagan; 5/04/2007 9:45am at .
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

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    Just found this from Jason Delucia himself. Answers my question, and it is all clear now. I will move on now, thank you for your time.
    If you had done that in the first place, this stupid thread would not exist and you would not have made yourself look like an ignorant man.

    Gotta love the KF lineage battles...LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sambosteve
    Gotta love the KF lineage battles...LOL.
    It would be more entertaining if it was.

    This is a dumbass, undercover, sport vs Traditional argument. Problem is only one idiot was arguing.

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    I don't know when/if Jason's going to reply, but since I hate for you to be kept waiting:

    Jason DeLucia earned his red sash in Kung Fu. He has told me that his sifu Frank Heaney was educated in Chinatown (Boston) under Grandmaster Sung Lee. I've met Sifu Heaney but I have never trained with him. Jason is my Aikido teacher.

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    So, to sum up this thread:

    1. Pimpslapper is an ignorant tool.
    2. Jason DeLucia is a guy with an eclectic kung-fu background who got owned by Royce in one of the early Gracie challenges in 1992 maybe along with everyone else, then studied BJJ and went on to have a pretty good MMA fighting career. He's also a pretty humble and decent all-around guy.
    3. We're not investigating Jason because everything about him is up front.
    4. Pimpslapper is an ignorant tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chingythingy
    So, to sum up this thread:

    1. Pimpslapper is an ignorant tool.
    2. Jason DeLucia is a guy with an eclectic kung-fu background who got owned by Royce in one of the early Gracie challenges in 1992 maybe along with everyone else, then studied BJJ and went on to have a pretty good MMA fighting career. He's also a pretty humble and decent all-around guy.
    3. We're not investigating Jason because everything about him is up front.
    4. Pimpslapper is an ignorant tool.
    Yep.

    He evolved and some kung pooers don't like that he didn't stay stagnant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chingythingy
    2. Jason DeLucia is a guy with an eclectic kung-fu background who got owned by Royce in one of the early Gracie challenges in 1992 maybe along with everyone else, then studied BJJ and went on to have a pretty good MMA fighting career. He's also a pretty humble and decent all-around guy.
    Jason actually showed up on these boards very briefly, with the singular intent of disproving your last statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamabushi
    I wasn't aware that CLF had groundfighting - perhaps you could provide some examples? Video of it in action would be best.
    CLF groundfighting in a nutshell:
    1. Kicking, scissoring and sweeping from the ground.
    2. From an upright position, sweep and knee drop to chest, followed w/ knee on belly/chest GnP
    3. From an upright position, kick and stomp opponent on the ground.
    4. RNC
    5. Standing locks taken to the ground.

    At my school, when we grapple it looks like jujitsu/submission grappling, because choy li fut doesn't contain a complete enough groundfighting system to roll effectively. This is, by the way, within the same org as the OP, and I've met taisifu Hubbard before at a seminar. He's a good guy. I question the OPs claim of spending ten years studying under him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    Yep.

    He evolved and some kung pooers don't like that he didn't stay stagnant.
    Good point about remaining stagnant. TMA's did not always remain stagnant. They evolved to meet the needs of their students. I've noticed a tendency for immigrants to freeze once they come to a new country. My friend's parents still act like it is 1960's Taiwan (very conservative), while in Taiwan, everyone has progressed.

    Similarly, some arts want to remain exactly as they were when their sifu's sifu first left China. This is not necessarily bad... BJJ helped keep alive some older elements of judo and the more traditional TMA schools will still do hard sparring. For too many, it *can* be a negative thing. For every guy who tries to evolve, there will be a dozen who say it is "not the real kung fu/kempo/ju-whatever".
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