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    I just think it's ANOTHER step in the wrong direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Gwinn
    ... They can carry it in McDonald's, they can carry it to work, they can carry it at the gas station, they can carry it to Wal-Mart. That hasn't caused any problems, but having them carry to school or church will? It defies reason.
    Don't cloud the issue with reason and logic.

    There is something wrong with the motives or the mental health of someone that continually claims that allowing law abiding people to protect themselves is somehow going to turn a city, school, or whatever into the "wild west." Every time someone proposes less restrictions on self defense there are people making these outrageous, hysterical claims of doom, gloom, and blood in the streets that have never come to fruition. Yet time and time again the same people are regurgitating the same lies. I guess they're firm believers in the saying that if you repeat a lie enough it becomes the truth.
    If God carried a gun, it would be a 1911.

    Assiduus usus uni rei deditus et ingenium et artem saepe vincit - Cicero

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    Having tons of guns around means more accidents with guns and ammo, no matter how careful people are. You can't argue with that.

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    Stop trolling.

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    Yes, I should stop trolling OTHER THREADS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kein Haar
    Yeah, Don, but I don't think problems will be solved by giving everyone a gun.

    (Still didn't RTFA).
    No one is talking about giving everyone a gun. Read Don's post again.

    Cracky, as a self professed anarcho-socialist (or some such anarcho-Xism) who has railed against the very existence of the police, I would think that you would be in favor of law abiding citizens having the means to protect themselves and others. Even with the police, if you rely on 911, you're more likely to end up receiving the services of the coroner than the police if someone is genuinely intent on doing you harm. 911 didn't really help the kids at Columbine or VT, and it won't help you if you really need it, either.

    Oh, Don, one other restriction on CHL holders in Texas is that property owners can decide to make their property gun free zones on their own and a CHL holder on their property that is packing can be charged with trespassing if the owner has properly posted his property stating that concealed weapons are not allowed.

    Also, employers can prohibit their employees from carrying, even to the extent of having the firearms in their locked vehicles in the parking lot. Most of the high tech firms in Austin have just such a policy. There is a bill by Represenative Patrick Rose (D) being considered in the Senate right now that would prohibit employers from prohibiting employees from having firearms in their locked vehicles.
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    Cracky, as a self professed anarcho-socialist (or some such anarcho-Xism) who has railed against the very existence of the police, I would think that you would be in favor of law abiding citizens having the means to protect themselves and others.
    As someone who has never had to deal with anyone pointing a gun at me or trying to rob me forcefully, I think that anti-poverty programs are a much more effective form of "self-defence", because if someone is intent on doing me harm, they can just put a rock in a sock and smash me in the back of the head and I'll never see it coming, they won't give me time to pull a gun and use it.

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    So, I take it you don't own any guns, then.

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    No, I would if the laws were laxer, or if I hadn't lost my wallet when I took the gun safety course (no ID, no gun license for me), but I'm not shelling out hundreds more dollars just so I have legal permission to buy one. When I want one and have the money to waste, I'm just gonna break the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracky McSlugHoot
    Yes, I should stop trolling OTHER THREADS.
    A second tier troll job. How sophisticated.

    Stop.

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