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  1. Slydermv is offline

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    4/30/2007 8:31pm


     Style: WTF TKD, BJJ/MMA

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    TKD Players please critique

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVzkwbh3mTE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVzkwbh3mTE

    Not sure if any TKD players are still around, but I figured **** it, everyone needs a little more slap happy kicking in their lives!

    Me in my latest match in blue. Did pretty piss poor considering I was able to squeek out a win. Already see a million things I did wrong (like kick the bastard in the head... ****... it was open the whole match). Even some stuff I normally do quite well I looked horrible at (like back kick counters. What the fack was with the backstep before the counter. I don't even think I've done that before). I think I might just be a choker in competition.

    Anyway, any comments/insights are welcome. I'll try to get a video of me sparring in the gym up for comparson in the next few weeks to see if I'm actually any better then this or am deluding myself.
    Last edited by Omega; 6/21/2007 11:22pm at .
  2. ojgsxr6 is offline

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    Posted On:
    4/30/2007 8:35pm

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     Style: Boxing/BJJudo/Crossfit

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Do they penalize for keeping your hands up?
  3. Slydermv is offline

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    Posted On:
    4/30/2007 8:37pm


     Style: WTF TKD, BJJ/MMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
    Do they penalize for keeping your hands up?
    It's the game. You leave yourself open to too many lost points off body shots if you do.
  4. timjitsu is offline

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    Posted On:
    4/30/2007 8:59pm


     

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    There were opportunities in which you could have utilized that axe kick.

    at min 2:07 of the video, you countered with a side-step roundhouse, which was good, but you kind of just stepped back, as he stood there open. You had another opportunity to score again.

    Your jump-spinning back-kick became very repetitive and though a few landed well, it was used way to many times and landed at a low rate.

    At 3:06 you had a good offensive back kick, you should have used this more often throughout the match since your opponent was so passive. TKD is an OFFENSE sport, since the hands are always down, judges won't care about how well you evaded, SCORE SCORE SCORE.

    Even though you were the most active (this is probably what won you the fight), your opponent landed at a much higher percentage than you did. He had the lazy-man strategy, but it was a smart one, basically he let you do all the work of kicking the air in front of him, and he'd nail you with the right leg round house. (min. 1:32)(min 4:49)

    Your clinch work (or when too close to be in kicking distance) is lacking. I saw no clean shots landed from being in close, wich as the shorter guy, you should have capitalized.

    You won the match for being the most active IMO, but you looked beat at the end, considering that most tournaments are based on elimination, you were probably dead tired by the time you faced your next (possibly better) opponent.
    Last edited by timjitsu; 4/30/2007 9:02pm at .
  5. timjitsu is offline

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    Posted On:
    4/30/2007 9:08pm


     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ojgsxr6
    Do they penalize for keeping your hands up?
    I won first place at a local TKD tournament by keeping my hands up and letting the other guy kick my elbow.

    he fell to the ground and started crying like a little bitch. I remember him being all pissed because he was ahead on points, and I felt pretty guilty for winning.

    but now I realized that keeping my hands up was a good thing, and that it was a defensive win.

    This was the first time that I actually started to realize what TKD really had to offer in a real fight situation.

    I got worried, and felt insecure for a heck of a long time.

    Thank God that I didn't get into any street fight in my TKD days.
  6. Ronin.74 is offline

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    Posted On:
    5/01/2007 8:57am


     Style: CMA,Muay Thai ,Yudo,TKD

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    Quote Originally Posted by timjitsu
    I won first place at a local TKD tournament by keeping my hands up and letting the other guy kick my elbow.
    I always keep my hands up, opponents generally score the same amount appoints as if I kept them down, having them up has made no difference in the outcome of any of my matches. Plus you get the added bonus that timjitsu mentioned above.

    Other than that, yeah you could have gone to his head all day. I particularly noticed an instance when you threw 2 lead leg round kicks to the body. You could have easily thrown the second one to his head and probably continued to do so the entire match. Your back kick timing and distancing looked off. Next time you run into that problem trying stepping into it first, if the guy is backing up to avoid it the additional step you take will put him right back in range.
  7. Slydermv is offline

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    Posted On:
    5/01/2007 10:45am


     Style: WTF TKD, BJJ/MMA

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    Thanks guys. Clinchwork... oh yes. I've just been starting to drill it a bit recently, but obviously I need to alot more and step back farther before I attack. Something I'll have to work on over the next few months.

    And yeah.. on those back kicks I whiffed, I really could have scored easily if I stepped in like you said. I guess I'm just not really used to sparring guys who move back so much (which on the other hand I was doing the whole time, which puisses me off as well since I've been working on lateral movement for months)

    I think also one of the biggest problems is I wasn't reading the match either. I really should have been stepping into my kicks because he wasn't moving anywhere but back.

    Bah.. every time I watch this video I get pissed off.
  8. sheltrk is offline

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    Posted On:
    5/01/2007 4:31pm


     Style: Taekwondo

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    To me, Red was looking for counters the whole match. Typical "lazy man"-type strategy that an earlier poster referenced. When I fight someone who's just looking for counters, I try throwing some quick lead leg kicks to see if they'll bite. Also, check-steps and feints sometimes work. If he bites, counter his counter. If he doesn't bite, I usually get frustrated and start throwing fast combos, doubles, triples, etc. I'll often land the second or third kick in a "flurry", but sometimes I get countered too.
  9. MaverickZ is offline

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    Posted On:
    5/02/2007 7:35am

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     Style: white boy jiujitsu

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    WTF TKD sucks. And all of you can bite me. It's boring to watch and it's boring to play.
  10. Slydermv is offline

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    Posted On:
    5/02/2007 9:13am


     Style: WTF TKD, BJJ/MMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaverickZ
    WTF TKD sucks. And all of you can bite me. It's boring to watch and it's boring to play.
    Ban plz
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