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  1. Dirty Rooster is offline

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    4/24/2007 6:05pm


     Style: Basic Self-Defence

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    BaGua circle-walking clip, is it good or bad?

    I'd like to know from BaGua peeps. is this clip on YouTube ;
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf0YtbzuvoI
    good or bad?

    I've never seen any first-hand, just this guy seems
    totally wobbly, weak and feeble... or is that normal?
  2. socratic is offline

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     Style: gah, transition again

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    On closer examination, he's not sinking enough at all. He's practically standing upright, and maybe even leaning forwards too much at the hips when going through the forms at lower heights. He hopped around a lot between steps and lacked flow a bit in that aspect.

    I'm not an expert on Bagua, so there's probably more complaints.
    Last edited by socratic; 5/02/2007 4:51am at .
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    Posted On:
    5/01/2007 10:22am

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    Really? ... because I thought it was not very good at all. I did not think there was good hip integration, sinking of the weight, body structure, etc.
  4. Nestorius is offline

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    Posted On:
    5/08/2007 11:19am

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    I dunno. Only been learning for a few months, but that twisty snake stuff is more or less what the 'Taiwanese-style' Pa Kua in my class looks like. YouTube comments on this video look interesting. Apparently he is of Liu Yun Qiao's lineage and may or may not be Adam Hsu. The mainlander guys seem to be the one's flaming him in the YouTube comments, and the links to their videos seem to show something a little stiffer and more crisp... wushu?
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    5/08/2007 7:17pm


     Style: Xing-Yi

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    Bagua is a fucking mystery to me. I dont get it
  6. Scott Larson is offline
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    Posted On:
    5/08/2007 9:32pm


     Style: Ba Zheng Dao Quan

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    Even though its from a movie, I thought this was a good example.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajaonqHRwLQ
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    Posted On:
    5/08/2007 9:42pm


     Style: Baihequan, Judo

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    Have you got any idea what movie that is from? (EDIT: Nevermind; sometimes, the answer is just a comment box away! ;) )

    As far as training scenes in kung fu movies go, I'd say it's very nice!

    It does explain the point of bagua, although personally I'd be more interested in seeing what a real bagua practitionner really is able to do.

    I also liked the bit demonstrating (although exagerately) short power.

    And the Iron Palm, though again exagerated.
    Last edited by Guizzy; 5/08/2007 9:45pm at .
  8. dwhomp is offline

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    5/08/2007 10:09pm


     Style: Xing-Yi

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    I have had 4 instructors in what I do. All of them try to teach me their Bagua (although they are not big fans of it either). Everytime it is given up in favor of the XY.

    Personally, I dont get, dont think I ever will. this leads me to question if there is anything To get that cant be obtained from more....easily understood means
  9. Scott Larson is offline
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    5/09/2007 11:18am


     Style: Ba Zheng Dao Quan

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    I think Xing Yi is just better for you personally. People have different affinities with different styles. It probably made a difference that your teachers weren't too fond of Bagua either.
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    Bagua circle? I don't wanna be doin' no geometry, I just wanna be playin' some GAMES.
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