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  1. Uncle Skippy is offline

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    I have no need for any recognition from you or anyone else
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    I am not interested in karate or judo, get it yet?
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    My ranking means nothing because ranking can be given as gifts, for $, or just made up.
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    Doesn't matter.. there will not be any ranking papers hanging on the wall for you to Q.. just results from action.
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    I find the lack of effort rather interesting and how you avoid getting the truth by wanting to banter about foolish ranking in arts which to be honest with you mean little or nothing to me and most likely to anyone else.
    Ralph,

    Sorry that I'm jumping in so late here. Late-comers tend to throw a wrench into things and repeat previous questions. I've combed through the thread and read everyone's questions, the responses, and have a feel for the overall tone of the thread.

    First off, I want to make it clear that I am not in any way criticizing you or your art. I don't have any experience with it.

    It seems that rank in your eyes is not important and that the only thing that matters is the results. I can completely understand this mindset in that a Black Belt from one particular school in a style will not have the same requirements and results as a Black Belt from a different school in the same style. I can respect that and it is the harsh reality that a lot of people outside of the martial arts community don't want to hear.

    I actually only have one question that I feel is a valid question and it is not loaded in the least. I'm just curious about the answer considering your responses so far.

    If rank and past training is of no interest to you, why do you have all of your ranks and past training listed on your various pages?

    Given your position, shouldn't you simply state that you have a lot of experience and that you will get results without mentioning any of your ranks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamiyamashinobi View Post
    I apologize but the subject in Q is extremely difficult to explain to people with little or no knowledge regarding the subject.
    If you can't provide cogent, concise answers to simple questions like these, why do you presume to make your living as a teacher?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamiyamashinobi View Post
    Hello, I found this and felt it was pretty interesting.
    I have an open policy and don't mind answering questions.
    Feel free to ask me regarding this silly and immature thread about my personal experiences, skills, license and etc.
    Thank you,
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamiyamashinobi View Post
    First off I will answer any Q regarding my training ""now"" or with the ""Bujinkan Dojo"" under Hatsumi sensei or with any of the ""members"" I trained with in the Bujinkan Dojo during the time I was a member in that organization in my good time.

    I will not be answering silly meaningless Q about ranking.
    Before you ask.. why, it really doesn't mean anything to me and shouldn't you too you either.

    Any Q?

    Thanks,
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    Hi Mr. Severe, I have been a member here for a while now, but i don't make too many forays into this particular forum, mostly because I'm too far away to actively participate in any investigations. I have a question, based on the above qoutes from yourself. I would like to know why the change in stance between the first and second post.

    This is not related at all to your ranks etc. but rather to what you yourself wrote
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    uncle skippy, "If rank and past training is of no interest to you, why do you have all of your ranks and past training listed on your various pages"?
    I believe that the pages of my web site speak for themselves. You, being the reader, might have some interest in what the pages state. On the other hand I might not have any interest what so ever in what they state. It is like a system of martial arts, Take what you feel is best and go from there. I feel from this silly Q weak effort Q about ranking when in fact I can clear up Q regarding the Bujinkan, Members I have trained with and my training now is interesting. My issues are not important to me but telling you like it is and is not in the Bujinkan, the training or members of the Bujinkan is a valet point which I will put effort into at this time. If you wish to take advantage of that do so and if not I could care less.

    “Given your position, shouldn't you simply state that you have a lot of experience and that you will get results without mentioning any of your ranks”?
    I believe I can state anything I wish on the web site that is honest and subject related to who might be reading it. It seems most here if not all only read about ranking. Ok. So that was effective and you read the web site to find more information on the ranking in hopes of finding something you dislike or are interested in asking about. Groovy, what ever.
    If you feel I am claiming ‘I am this or that’ and you disagree ‘I am totally ok with your findings and well I should be’. It doesn’t interest me that you have opinions and well you should have opinions and maybe a liberated thinker. I feel this Q and liberation is what training manifest in all serious martial artists.



    BTW, it is not a “ninjutsu school” research more or catch up with the thread.

    cletus, I believe I have that option and I feel the other is worthless information to chat about.

    Thank you,
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    OK, no problem.



    Indeed he is. I trained with him from the early 1990s until 2000, when I moved to Missouri. I don't want to get into the whole debate about his credentials (I don't really know enough to argue about them anyway), all I can say is that from what I've experienced, he is both a skilled martial artist and a good teacher. I consider the time I spent with him highly valued.

    Thank you, Sir.

    I think you understand that this is not a scam campaign against your system or your school. Your colleague has made questionable and improbable claims about his martial arts record and refused to explain or prove them. While these supposed lies don't diminish his actual martial arts knowledge, they are still lies.
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    baby-cart,
    Nice user name.
    I'm sure this means something?

    “sir, do you have menkyo in that particular ryu(like tsunehisa tanemura or fumio manaka)”?
    I have not seen the license that these awesome men have but I am aware they have been license through Hatsumi sensei with some type of license. The licenses that I have are of two difference subject origins. Both allow me to express myself as I feel the need to through what I have been shown, drilled, trained and applied in my training regardless of the subject matter.

    “or are you teaching with the certification of BBT”?
    I have no idea what BBT is?

    if you are not part of the bujinkan anymore then the certification of teaching is void, right?
    I feel you have a misunderstand of the license in which is passed on from teacher to student. If you are referring to a membership license, ranking license or a teaching license etc. you are not being clear so I have a difficult time understand what it is you wish to know.

    “you cannot claim that you teach THAT ryuha according to the org. if you are teaching THAT ryuha as stand-alone, do you have proper certification”?
    If you don’t mind be a little more to the point. Are you stating in your opinion or is this a rule or law or are you stating this is something you have heard from someone else?

    “or if you teach it as your OWN interpretation, how is it different from SKH”?
    Read his web site and read my web site and research for yourself what is the difference or the similarities.

    “is ninjutsu really open to interpretation”?
    Ninjutsu is just a word given by the kanji which the origins state it means the skills of the ninja. I assume you can do as you feel is necessary with that word meaning.

    “if so, then other 'historical MA systems' are too”.
    I feel any founder passes on a method of his intentions to his students and in hopes of that method helping him/her in some way or another in their lives. I’m not sure how the founder of that system would feel about having the system interpretive or not because I am not that founder.

    “and what do you MEAN by historical”?
    Where as the Japanese Bugei is concerned, It is a Japanese system that predates WW2 before the change in Japanese history took place.

    “besides bujinkan, have you studied other ryu/historical MA systems(preferably Japanese)”?
    Yes.

    “and lastly, you said that it is a misconception that you teach ninjutsu publicly. why is it that you NOW used 'kamiyamashinobi' as your handle”?
    I don’t feel a user name is that important do you?


    “in all of the forums I'd seen you posted, you used just 'kamiyama'. why give signal to 'shinobi' if you do not want to be identified with ninjutsu teaching”?
    It is just a user name. You find a lot of interest in user names? And I do teach Togakure ryu Ninpo Taijutsu, I have never said I do not teach ninjutsu, which in fact has the skills of the shinobi in that system.

    I will answer the other Q in due time.

    Thank you,
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    Mr. Severe, I'm not sure how my experience in historical Japanese battlefield systems helps to answer a question on why your school uses bad weapons techniques. I am also leery of this request being an appeal to authority. However, I am going to go on the assumption for now that this isn't a logical fallacy, and try and answer.

    I do not have much experience training in historical Japanese battlefield systems. I have experience in non-koryu jujitsu and judo, as well as training with the hanbo. The other "martial arts" weapons I have learned in formal martial arts training are the bo, the tonfa, the nunchaku, and the arnis and escrima sticks. Of those, only the bo is also Japanese. I also have practical, non-formal experience with more Western weapons like the quarterstaff, Scottish broadsword, and Bowie knife. I am an avid reader, and understand a lot about historical battelfield tactics from reading scholarly works on the subject.

    Now is the part where one of two things happen. One) You roll out your litany of experiences and training, and essentially use that to back up why your training is awesome, and disregard my specific points because of my percieved lesser training. Hence my worry that this is going to enter the realm of logical fallacy. Two) You understand that I'm not a complete neophyte on the subject, and you engage in a discourse with me on why your techniques are better than I'm giving them credit for.

    Really, a staff isn't much of a battlefield weapon. It's more of a personal defense weapon. This is not to say that a rokushakubo or quarterstaff or halfstaff (or 8-point staff, or what-have-you) won't kill the **** out of someone. George Silver (a noted English fight master) considers the quarterstaff a superior weapon. But it needs a lot of room to swing and maneuver to capitalize on momentum. You can't pack soldiers together weilding this. You add a sharp pointy end, have a yari, and pack them together to poke holes in opponents. A yari that's had its end broken becomes a bo. However, it now suffers from being less effective than a spear at poking, and can be grabbed. In the close confines of lines pressing, grabbing a broken shaft end is a good way to jerk someone out of line. Being jerked out of line is how you get stabbed.

    Now, your tecnhique puts the non-bladed weapon on the ground, controlled by one hand. The proper counter for your swordsman is to step on your staff. He's disarmed you, and can now dispatch you. It's a bad move. It's a gimmick move to try and attack a foot in a bad way.

    Yes, I'm focusing on one technique from your video. But it typifies the, to my eyes, sloppy staff work going on here. I see feet crossing, hands held close together, and none of the push-pull snap I should see from holding a staff in the half-staff (hands equidistant) position.

    So, what I'm asking for is for you to help me understand better what I'm seeing. I also hope you stick around this forum for more than a day. Forum-fuckery and asshattery aside, you can pick up nuggets of usefulness out of the dross. Plus, as I said before about the throwdown, it's a neat place to find more training partners.
    That particular move is part of a kata in Kukishin. It is originally done with the six foot staff so you have more distance hence you avoid the cut, but it can be variated as a Hanbo technique. You drop down to one knee and put the stick on the foot, then attack the ankle in a swinging motion. It is done deceptively, usually on the swordsman's draw. you can follow the leg attack with an attack to the hands.

    The Hanbo is indeed not a battlefield weapon however.... the Hanbo was looked upon as a way to carry a little of the battlefield with you so to speak. Specifically some of the Hanbo stuff in Kukishin (and there is a considerable amount of stuff in the school) is techniques that came out of the six foot staff which is a battle field weapon at times, and transferred to the hanbo.

    There are also techniques specific to the Hanbo which is why Japanese Bo stuff has both two handed and one handed techniques for example. The idea as I understand it from practice is that any stick should be able to be used if need be. Furthermore like Japanese sword the bo when weilded properly can be weilded in any direction with proper understanding of body movements. This is not only Japanese Bo as you know from your experiences this is also the Kali way with weapons: namely the same movements apply regardless of blade. stick, teardrop weapon or hands.

    Ralph might have been playing with that kata as it is a popular one. It does have applications but in free play it does not look like it should. What youhave to do is position so you look like you are in range and not be as you simply let the weapon drop using the weight of the weapon totally.
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    “I am assuming that the highest ranking, or "master's license" imply receiving a menkyo. Am I correct in this”?
    The ranking in Japanese Bugei is pretty basic. This ranking is new and has not been around that long and I assume Hatsumi sensei found it interesting and $ fruitful to use the newer ranking structure.
    The base is a grading system, then to the level system. Shodan and above. Shodan to yondan is a basic level, godan to nanadan an instructor level, hachidan and above a master level. This is what is normal not only in the Bujinkan but most Japanese systems of the newer ranking structure.
    I do not agree on the system used by Hatsumi sensei at this time, but that is my opinion and who cares.

    “Mr. Severe, I am simply curious, does this mean officially sanctioned training, or do these personnel approach you individually to receive their training”?
    I do not understand your Q, once more please?



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    Mr. Severe, thank you for answering my earlier question, and my apologies for being unclear with the second.

    On your web site, you state that you train military specialist, security officers, body guards, border patrol, DEA, FBI, and law enforcement personnel.

    Do these individuals approach you individually for training (via contacting you personally and requesting training,) or is there some form of sanctioned body through which you offer training to such individuals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsimon
    That particular move is part of a kata in Kukishin. It is originally done with the six foot staff so you have more distance hence you avoid the cut, but it can be variated as a Hanbo technique. You drop down to one knee and put the stick on the foot, then attack the ankle in a swinging motion. It is done deceptively, usually on the swordsman's draw. you can follow the leg attack with an attack to the hands.
    Thank you. You answered one of my concerns specifically, and you were to the point about it.

    The rest of your post kind of maunders about, and I'm not sure where you were going with it, unless you were confused about my terminology of "quarterstaff" and "halfstaff". They are English terms for two staff weapons that are very similar to the rokushakubo. The quarterstaff, however, was a bit longer than the 'bo- roughly your height to where your upstretched hand can reach. The halfstaff was your own height. The names for both come from where you hold the staff. A quarterstaff is held near the end of the staff, and then about a quarter of the way up the staff with your other hand. A little more than one-half the length of the staff was held forward as the primary striking end. A halfstaff is held with half the length of the staff between your hands, equal lengths of the staff being at both ends.

    In any case, suffice to say that I am happy that at least one of the techniques I saw in the video has a purpose, although it's obvious it wasn't executed in the right instance. Now if we can address the bad footwork and lack of pointing the business end of the weapon at the opponents or the lack of counterattack by the opponents, I feel we'll be getting somewhere. We can also go over the over-emphasis on powder in the eyes vs. emphasis on proper counter-attack with the sword.


    Mr. Severe, feel free to jump in any time here.

    *Edit* to better explain a quarterstaff grip.
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