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    KSM,
    Welcome back...
    What do YOU see in each youtube video?
    Please post your critique of each individual video, pointing out flaws, erroneous techniques etc as applies to shotokai.
    Number them 1-12 for easy reference.
    After you've done that, perhaps email the shotokai chaps so they can come on here and defend their technical abilities based on your critique.
    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sochin101
    KSM,
    Welcome back...
    What do YOU see in each youtube video?
    Please post your critique of each individual video, pointing out flaws, erroneous techniques etc as applies to shotokai.
    Number them 1-12 for easy reference.
    After you've done that, perhaps email the shotokai chaps so they can come on here and defend their technical abilities based on your critique.
    Cheers.
    Res ipsa loquitor - The thing speaks for itself.

    BTW, how about the no touch knockout vid? Comments? Happy?
    Last edited by KirkSpockMcCoy; 4/16/2007 8:48am at .

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    Culled from:
    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=52272

    This is as good a place as any to start a discussion on the specifics of what is being taught by Harada.
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

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    i thought posting links with no explanation was a bannable offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ming Loyalist
    i thought posting links with no explanation was a bannable offense.

    To be fair, he posted this in another thread. It was I who created this thread. So, if anyone should be banned for creating a thread with links and no explanations, it should be me.


    KirkSpockMcCoy's explanation is "Res ipsa loquitor" - which translates as "OMFG I can't stand these guys. LOL at their Karate!"
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

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    I'm Dave the gay Kickboxer from Manchester and I have the hots for Tom Kagan
    TOM KAGAN, OPEN ME, THE MKT ARE COMING FOR YOU ! ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO MEET ?
    ATTN TOM KAGAN
    World Dominator 'Kagan' in plot to lie about real Kung Fu and Martial Arts
    Tom Kagan just gave me my third negative rep in a day
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    Shotokan in circular argument shocker!

    Quote Originally Posted by KirkSpockMcCoy
    Res ipsa loquitor - The thing speaks for itself.
    I didn't ask what I saw... I asked what you saw... I asked for a critique based on your knowledge of shotokai techniques.

    BTW, how about the no touch knockout vid? Comments? Happy?
    Was that a no-touch knockout?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan
    To be fair, he posted this in another thread. It was I who created this thread. So, if anyone should be banned for creating a thread with links and no explanations, it should be me.


    KirkSpockMcCoy's explanation is "Res ipsa loquitor" - which translates as "OMFG I can't stand these guys. LOL at their Karate!"
    fair enough, i'm a little cranky today, as i think i broke my pinky toe at the throwdown yesterday, sorry. you can check the throwdown thread for a nasty picture of a purple swollen toe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KirkSpockMcCoy

    BTW, how about the no touch knockout vid? Comments? Happy?
    yes very happy I love getting new video evidence on fakers and bullshit artists . Who is this group again ? Do they have a web site ?

    * edit *

    On the off chance you come back I am sorry for coming off as such an asshole . I too am cranky so here :ky: and a * hug * .

    I would like to know what these clips are trying to demonstrate .

    Quote Originally Posted by sochin101


    Was that a no-touch knockout?
    More like a no touch "fall over" but ... whatever close enough it is still bullshit .
    Last edited by BackFistMonkey; 4/16/2007 1:14pm at .
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    Violence is pretty uncommon in clubs in this area, and the dude didn't seem particularly hostile up until the moment he slapped me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BackFistMonkey


    More like a no touch "fall over" but ... whatever close enough it is still bullshit .
    I didn't have the volume up: I was at work...
    He could have been saying : At this distance, if I throw a punch, this will not happen (cue falling over shotokai guy)...:icon_shak

    Sorry, I was being obtuse for KirkSpockMcoy...

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