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    2nd Dan Kukkiwon Certification (S Curtis Ray)


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    Quote Originally Posted by TRHellerich
    second dan huh ?

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    Why am I not impressed ?

    I can't wait to see his jujitsu . Yes Mr. Ray , pre-screen your prospective students carefully . Some bullies know ninjitsu .
    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    Violence is pretty uncommon in clubs in this area, and the dude didn't seem particularly hostile up until the moment he slapped me.
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
    BILL HICKS,
    1961-1994

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    Wikipedia article is gone.

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    AK: Giving new meaning to the word "Unfair."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashe
    Wikipedia article is gone.
    Yah. It is.

    Here's the replacement. Done and done.




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    I'm having a difficult time getting the interviews I was hoping for.
    It turns out, Ray likes to intimidate the people who know the most about him,
    making them think that they're gonna get sued or even WORSE if they talk!
    I'm quite sure he's using his overbearing "Preacher Power" to get his point across, as well.
    What A Complete __________er!

    Hope to have something soon.
    Peace
    Timbo

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    Part of SFB's old website...

    http://www.stlouismartialartscenter....s/page0008.htm

    I just knew that there used to be a year listed too.

    Why did you take the year off the new site...huh Ray?
    Oh Yeah...cuz you got somethin to hide:)

    God Bless You, Ray. (you're gonna need it)

    Peace.
    Timbo

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    Come on fellas. Edit that ****.

    No one call that number.

    Tim having fun is all well and good but, this can lead to trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    Come on fellas. Edit that ****.

    No one call that number.

    Tim having fun is all well and good but, this can lead to trouble.

    You fellows are a little gung ho ... I second Is It Fake's suggestion .
    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    Violence is pretty uncommon in clubs in this area, and the dude didn't seem particularly hostile up until the moment he slapped me.
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
    BILL HICKS,
    1961-1994

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    Come on fellas. Edit that ****.

    No one call that number.

    Tim having fun is all well and good but, this can lead to trouble.

    that would be a major no no. By the way TRHellerich good job locating the dan certification.

    Now one question I have is on his lists of all the arts he teaches he shows chinese kung fu and chinese wushu...Now correct me if I'm wrong but aren't they the same thing?

    I think both S.C Ray and Milt Wallace need to go out bowling together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    Come on fellas. Edit that ****.

    No one call that number.

    Tim having fun is all well and good but, this can lead to trouble.
    Sorry you guys. I guess I'm still learning what is and what isn't acceptable here. I posted that info an a serious note. When I'm playing around or pissed, I say so. That was supposed to be for the good of the thread. I actually emailed some of that info (about two weeks ago) to a few people who have come to know Ray personally, in an attempt to further this investigation. We're at a roadblock with this thing and I was merely trying to help.
    F!
    Peace.
    Timbo

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