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  1. Bang! is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    With a few exceptions, injuries notwithstanding, there's nothing wrong with benching if you do it right. The fact that most guys have their elbows flared out for their 200 daily repetitions is not a problem with the exercise itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asriel
    Thank you El Macho that is extremely useful. I totally forgot about height and age. I'm 6`3 and 28 in October.
    You are certainly not overweight then. 90kg is about 190lbs, and for your height, that's not overweight at all. So that's good news.

    Quote Originally Posted by Asriel
    I must admit to being surprised at having just the two exercises per day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Red Sauce
    Yeah I'm a little confused too, if he is only going 3 times a week, should he not aim for in c~2hours worth of session if time allows?
    2 hours per session seems like pushing it. I've know some people who can do that and reap the benefits, but for most, it leads to overtraining. 45 minutes to 75 minutes (including a brief warmup) seems to be the best.

    The 3 times a week is a guesstimate based on the fact that he is also doing BJJ 3-4 times a week and that he is starting to get his bearings with lifting. Some people can lift as many times on the week as they train grappling. But others don't. So it is important that he get familiarized with how his body is going to react when he adds lifting on top of his BJJ.

    I would say, keep it short and intense three times a week. Get in, 30-45 minutes of lifting, and get out, with small, weekly increments of weight (5 to 10lbs). If, after 2 or 3 weeks, he doesn't experience any detriment to his BJJ training, then he can increase the amount of time he spends in the gym (either by increasing the time of each workout session and/or the frequency during the week.)


    Quote Originally Posted by Kein Haar
    Why would you think that, red sauce?

    l mch,

    What's with the squat redundancy?
    Cuz I luv squats :tongue3: Seriously answer: when people begin to lift with the purpose of gaining mass, squats are the way to go. People can do them several times a week, for a period of 5-6 weeks. After that, they need to drop the frequency or intensity. But the main reason, I think, is that squats helps the body grow when combined with other compound exercises.

    My g/f started lifting back in January (she was always a cardio chick). I came up with a very simple routine of push ups, lat pull downs/assisted chin ups, and squats, lots of it, 3 times a week. In a matter of weeks she made significant, visible gains in muscle tone and size (not counting strenght gains.)

    What can I say? I love squats.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

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    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Macho
    What can I say? I love squats.
    What, no love for deads? C'mon.... :toothy9:
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    Oh yeah, and deadlifts, too. It's a complicated love triangle :tongue3:

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    Talking about deadlifts, check this out :)

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=53937
    Last edited by Teh El Macho; 4/20/2007 6:03pm at .
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Macho
    Talking about deadlifts, check this out :)

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=53937
    Ah, cool. As a connoisseur of deadlifts, I approve. :toothy10:
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    Only just got round to checking this again, thanks for all the info. I'll be starting lifting next week and will let you know how I get on :)
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