Georgia : Any information on Carl Carey, John Thomas, and Chris Geary?

**fightsdirty** · Posted On: 4/18/2007 12:24am

Hey does anyone here have any information on the guys listed below? some people have asked me whether they are good instructors to train with. I can tell from their videos that they don't know what they're doing and I would never send anybody to train with them. But I also strongly suspect these guys are total frauds as well. I don't want to tell people that without any facts to back it up. Anyone heard of them?

Carl Carey and John Thomas in Stone Mountain Georgia. John Thomas displays a black belt certificate from ken macquire that looks like a forgery. Master Macguire is now deceased.

Also, christopher geary. most people know he's a fraud but if anyone here has additional experiences to share, I'd appreciate it. I'm having trouble convincing someone that he's a con artist.

thanks

**Sam Browning** · Posted On: 4/18/2007 12:26am

Search for the Chris Geary thread and refer said person to this source of information.

**Locu5** · Posted On: 4/18/2007 9:58am

Do you have a website for Carl Carey and John Thomas' school?

**cyrijl** · Posted On: 4/18/2007 10:23am

We should have a ready made gif/jpg of the search link.

**Kintanon** · Posted On: 4/18/2007 10:23am

There is a John Thomas listed as a 3rd degree BB by DragonWingDojo under Lorraine Lewis. Other than that I can't find anything about him. http://www.geocities.com/dragonwingd...structors.html <--- Here's Lorraine Lewis' info. Looks like reasonable Karate credentials there. If it's the same John Thomas then it looks like he's gonna be a pretty standard Karate school. If you can give us an address or name of his school or something I may be able to find some more info.

**fightsdirty** · Posted On: 4/18/2007 12:32pm

Yeah, Carl Carey and John Thomas do have a website. It's earthsilver.com
Wierd thing is that the Carl guy posts links to ridiculous videos of himself on kenpo discussion boards. He seems to be trying to show off new moves that he has "invented". The other guy, John Thomas, with the bogus looking certificate, doesn't show up anywhere on the net but this earthsilver website.

**DuckofDeath** · Posted On: 4/18/2007 1:15pm

http://earthsilver.com/

**Locu5** · Posted On: 4/18/2007 1:46pm

Looks like a waste of time to me. What part of Atlanta does your friend live in? What are his(?) MA goals?

**Kintanon** · Posted On: 4/18/2007 1:47pm

Must be a different person since I see no mention of Dragon Wing or Lorraine Lewis on his site... Of course the thing is an eyesore and it made my ears bleed to look at it, but I did manage to read the Instructors page without vomiting and saw no mention of the site I found.