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  1. Phrost is offline
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    Posted On:
    9/16/2002 2:49pm

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     Guy Who Pays the Bills and Gets the Death Threats Style: MMA (Retired)

    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    We just uploaded this short clip of Jet Li giving a Wushu demonstration on the Tonight Show.

    His views on Martial Arts are fairly controversial. Some have accused him of outright labeling martial arts as "useless", and contributing to the McDojo-ing of Chinese Martial Arts through Sport-oriented Wushu.

    From his website: www.jetli.com

    With the advent of technology, you have guns, cannons, nuclear bombs, and other advanced weapons. Learning wushu no longer serves the purpose of fighting hand to hand against tigers, outside invaders, and so forth. Today, if you kill or maim someone with an astounding wushu move learned from some ten-year intensive training program, it will not help you to survive. The police will catch you for murder, society will frown upon you, and the whole deed would have been much more quickly performed through pulling a trigger on a pistol with a silencer...

    Now, wushu can pave the way to a career that earns big bucks. Big bucks translate to a higher standard of living, which is a boon for survival. Notice that the goal (survival) is the same. Itís only the path to survival thatís different....

    Self-defense is another reason why someone today might practice wushu, but I do not really advocate this particular end. If youíre faced with a problem, itís better to go to the police or seek recourse with some reliable authority.
    Is there any wonder why there's a growing rift between practicioners of "Kung Fu" and "WuShu" sport stylists?
  2. timcraig


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    9/16/2002 9:08pm


    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    "Is there any wonder why there's a growing rift between practicioners of "Kung Fu" and "WuShu" sport stylists? "


    How has hand to hand fighting changed through the use of hand guns, bombs, and other advanced weapons? It hasn't, hand to hand is still the same, it's hand vs (insert modern weapon here) that's changed.

    If you kill someone using an astounding wushu move(which would be amazing/unlikely in and of itself) for no good legal reason such as true self defense, then the police should catch you, and society should look down upon you. It's because you used violence unjustly that you'd be in trouble, not because you used wushu.
  3. Nihilanthic is offline

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    Posted On:
    9/17/2002 6:15pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Hmm... he did a form he must have practiced thousands of times... oh my, he must be a master fighter at choreographed fights! Hmm... that choreograph-fu must be excellent in his movie career!

    <Me> John, what do you know about Zen Buddhism? <John> *smacks me*
    <John> I'd have to smack you sometime...
    Katana, on 540 kicks: "Hang from a ceiling fan with both hands. Flail your feet out and ask people to walk into you as you hit their face."
  4. Mercurius is offline
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    Posted On:
    9/17/2002 6:28pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Jet Li's a fine one to talk about the use of martial arts in self-defense. Maybe he could spare one of the wires he uses to help him do something a man twice his age (Jackie Chan) could do unassisted and use it to choke the next guy who tries to mug him?

    And that's what I call REAL Ultimate Power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    "The morning glory blooms for an hour. It differs not at heart from the giant pine, which lives for a thousand years."


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