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    Quote Originally Posted by El Macho
    Some CLF, Hung Gar and NPM schools here in the US produce Sanda fighters, btw.
    My old Wu shu coach, from Jet Li's team said, "Forms or Fighting, you don't do both in China..."

    That's not to name drop, as I really sucked at Wu Shu, but She was on the Bei Jing Team, so, I figure that should be the last word on it. Also, Jason Yee, Boston San Shou Coach, says the same thing. Still, if it's a hobby, you could do both- besides, once you get to creaky to fight all the time, those forms can be fun....

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    Quote Originally Posted by new2bjj
    My old Wu shu coach, from Jet Li's team said, "Forms or Fighting, you don't do both in China..."

    That's not to name drop, as I really sucked at Wu Shu, but She was on the Bei Jing Team, so, I figure that should be the last word on it. Also, Jason Yee, Boston San Shou Coach, says the same thing. Still, if it's a hobby, you could do both- besides, once you get to creaky to fight all the time, those forms can be fun....
    I've done both, and well, I suck at both, but it is a hobby. I took about 1 1/2 years off of forms to do more fighting. I'm kind of back to the forms while I get back in shape. Fighting once a week rather than 3-4 times allows for more time to recover while I exercise.

    Usually, the guys who are in really good fighting shape can also do pretty nice forms, but not all the guys who can do nice forms have the heart to fight.

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    let me restate my question then; are there certain kung-fu styles that tend to have more involvement in the competitive san da arena than others? if so, what are they?

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    ok, now we're getting somewhere.

    a lot of the traditionally hard hitting southern styles are well-represented in san da: hung ga(r), choy lei fut, jow ga, lamma kung fu, etc.

    of course since we're talking about kung fu here, the majority of schools coming from any style will be full of ****. i have seen some really piss-poor hung ga out there, believe me. goes to show that reputation means nothing.

    it would be nice if the USCKF website listed the school alongside the competitor in their results page, cause it would read like a list of all the good schools, but they don't list that info.
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    what's your professional opinion on a few northen styles.. ie. mantis, baji, piqua .. (wu-tang)

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    i have very little 1st hand experience with northern styles. from what i have seen on this board, baji is supposed to be bad ass but there are very few teachers around.
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    "When I was a little boy, I had a sailor suit, but it didn't mean I was in the Navy." - Mtripp on the subject of a 5 year old karate black belt
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChinoXL
    let me restate my question then; are there certain kung-fu styles that tend to have more involvement in the competitive san da arena than others? if so, what are they?
    Tai Chi has done well in the UK and southeast asia.
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    Xingyi can work well. Mike Patterson (who is in San Diego) did well with his fighters in Lei Tai matches in Taiwan. There's also Li Tai Liang in NYC, who is a xinyi guy and also coaches Sanda.

    new2bjj...by any chance, did you do wushu at a large public university on the west coast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwhomp
    Pretty much that is what I think. Arts that claim they cant do full contact because of No Holds Barred deadliness:

    1. Couldnt do a fraction of what they claim against the unwilling.

    2. Never realize that the other guy can jab an eye or grab a set of nuts just like the other guy can.
    Yep. Quite so.
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    I know of Choi-ka/Fong-ka people doing Sanshou/Sanda.
    http://www.shao-li-ten.com/
    The only problem is that its in Peru and the site is in Spanish. I train at a school in MN that teaches it. I think there is a place in FL somewhere too.

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