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    can i do bag work on weight lifting days too because i only have a partner sunday or saturday

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    Quote Originally Posted by truepwrz
    can i do bag work on weight lifting days too because i only have a partner sunday or saturday
    I wouldn't see why not. But then again, pay attention kiddo ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by LI GUY 1
    Why not cut the running to 4 miles 2 days a week. Then the other 2 days run sprints. Also, more bag/pad work. You should be training your MA skills more than your lifting. Lifting is an accessory, not the main component.

    Honestly you should be doing a lot of skill training.
    As LI said, lifting is an accessory, not the main component.

    You are devoting a lot of time to lifting, which is fine and dandy if you intend to add strenght training to a well defined set of skills. However, right now you are just trying to cultivate those skills - in fact, you are trying to find out what you like (since I just saw you are giving BJJ a try.)

    If you can lift that much and that often WITHOUT compromising your skill training, that's great. Meaning, prioritize your MA skill development first, running and sprinting second, and lifting third.

    It is hard for us to guess what's best for you. You may be able to do all the stuff you are attempting... or you may overtrain. Only time will tell. Just keep in mind that you may have to cut off lifting if your ma training begins to lag. Only time will tell man, only time will tell.

    What's for certain, however, is that you got to get rid of the junk food. Get it out, get it out, get it out!!!!

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    i dont really know i just eat 2 fruits 3salads a gallon of milk 2meals of meat and then i just gobble a bunch of junk food
    This is a no-no. Make a list, everyday. In it, write everything you eat or drink and how much.

    Milk, coffee, meat (what type, how much and how it was cooked), fruit (what type, how much), salads (what type, how much), junk food (what type and brand, and how much). Not only that, write down at what time you took that food.

    Do that for a couple of days, and then post that information in another thread. Make it detailed and precise, and we will be able to tell you what to fix. For example, this is what my meals look like today:

    • 8am - 1 glass of orange juice + glutamine, 1 glass of water
    • 10am - whole wheat bagel (300cals) with cream cheese and guava jelly, 2 egg white, 1 cup of coffee
    • 11am - 1 Monster Khaos energy drink + aminoacid pills
    • 12:30pm - 1 cup of coffee, 1 fistfull of brocolli+cauliflower, a fistfull of brown rice, 1.5 egg, 1 egg white, small diced tomatoe, chicken, 1 fistfull of tofu, 1 tbspoon of humus, 1 glass of water
    • 2:00pm - 1 blueberry scone
    • (plus I plan to eat at 4pm exactly the same I ate the same I ate at 12:30pm, then a protein shake at 5pm, and then more food around 8pm and 10pm).


    Not ideal food, some days are good, some are not. But the imporant thing is to keep track of what you eat, down to the most minute cup of coffee.

    That's how much detail you need to put when people ask you what you have been eating. Otherwise, people won't have a clue on what to suggest.

    Good luck.
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    This thread killed Jesus.

    Drop running. Utterly pointless and destructive. Your training routine needs to vary in repetition and set schemes as well as types of lifts to prevent stagnation and accommodation of activities by your physiological systems and CNS.

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    truepwrz is just starting. Keeping it simple for him and running 5x5 (a set schedule he can follow, plus I hear its good) should be good. I doubt he needs to start adjusting and changing things, if he keeps lifting he can probably do this for a few months no problem.

    Though I would only run once a week for active recovery at a light pace. I hate running and it only add to stress on knees in addition to MA/lifting.

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    An AR period isn't generally something done in a microcycle. Constant variation is key and needs to be placed into a cycled periodization system.

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    That's gonna fly over truepwrz's head. He's a kid getting his feet wet and trying to find out what he likes - he's flipping back and forth betweem sanda, bjj and lifting. In addition, he's trying to get his diet clean of junk food.

    Best thing for him is just to keep him lifting in the simplest terms possible, do some running while letting him figure out his own schedule between lifting and MA training.

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    Please no one take this as a criticism. Just keep in mind where truepwrz is coming from when he writes his posts and questions.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Equipoise
    An AR period isn't generally something done in a microcycle. Constant variation is key and needs to be placed into a cycled periodization system.
    too complicated what does that mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Macho
    That's gonna fly over truepwrz's head. He's a kid getting his feet wet and trying to find out what he likes - he's flipping back and forth betweem sanda, bjj and lifting. In addition, he's trying to get his diet clean of junk food.

    Best thing for him is just to keep him lifting in the simplest terms possible, do some running while letting him figure out his own schedule between lifting and MA training.

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    Please no one take this as a criticism. Just keep in mind where truepwrz is coming from when he writes his posts and questions.
    ^^^ Q E D

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Macho
    That's gonna fly over truepwrz's head. He's a kid getting his feet wet and trying to find out what he likes - he's flipping back and forth betweem sanda, bjj and lifting. In addition, he's trying to get his diet clean of junk food.

    Best thing for him is just to keep him lifting in the simplest terms possible, do some running while letting him figure out his own schedule between lifting and MA training.

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    Please no one take this as a criticism. Just keep in mind where truepwrz is coming from when he writes his posts and questions.
    Or use the Search Function. =-)

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    Equipose: why would a 16 year old newb to lifting need periodization and constant variation would be too complicated. He shpuld stick to a program for a few months. He won't hit a wall by not changing his rep schemes or rotating his accessory movements.

    I lifted for a year straight with pretty much the same program (same as in not changing, not the 5x5). I hit a wall and peaked a few weeks ago and am now changing things up (my whole routine). I got pretty strong lifting how I did, not great but well I think.

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