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  1. pauli is offline

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    if i was to buy a DAO pistol of american manufacture that the XD compact would be it.
    ...if it was dao.
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    if the departments in your area do not issue weapons how does law enforcement officers deal with suspects, harsh words?
    Because we buy our own guns. Service pistol, back-up..... aaaaand they have ARs on hand, but they're bounced around all day in crummy racks and barely fired. So, people who care buy their own.

    I thought that's what we were talking about, anyway. Guns, that is.

    Oddly enough, though, harsh words do work 99% of the time. :director:
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    Quote Originally Posted by pauli
    ...if it was dao.
    Are you saying the springfield xd ISNT DAO?
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    are guns not weapons? maybe splitting hairs there. just used to military background family members throwing a fit over using the word guns that way. my shooting instructors were same way.
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    militarily, a 'gun' is a cannon like on a ship or tank. hence 'gunners' being operators of such weapons
  6. pauli is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roaming East
    Are you saying the springfield xd ISNT DAO?
    given that it is single action, that would be what i am saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pauli
    given that it is single action, that would be what i am saying.
    It operates as a DAO so it might as well be one. Its a single action mechanical design that lacks a decocker or manual lever safety. Its a single action pistol operated by way of a DAO design. In otherwords, you use it in the precisely the same manner that every other DAO pistol known to man has ever operated (cock and pop). I would be hard pressed however to find a SA or DA/SA that operates in the same manner. Its a unique action to be sure but is closer to DAO in operation than amything else.
  8. Nid is offline

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    Not sure where I've been that unclear, or why it even matters after clarification.
  9. pauli is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roaming East
    It operates as a DAO so it might as well be one. Its a single action mechanical design that lacks a decocker or manual lever safety. Its a single action pistol operated by way of a DAO design. In otherwords, you use it in the precisely the same manner that every other DAO pistol known to man has ever operated (cock and pop). I would be hard pressed however to find a SA or DA/SA that operates in the same manner. Its a unique action to be sure but is closer to DAO in operation than amything else.
    except for that whole... double action thing. you know, pulling the trigger cocks and fires? one trigger pull, one hammer fall? what makes a dao a dao?

    dryfiring an xd makes it really clear, really fast, that it's not a dao.

    the manual of arms isn't that far off from some of jmb's concealed hammer, no manual safety prototypes of the 1911 - no cocking without slide action.
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    pauli is correct. The XD is single action.

    http://www.gunsandammomag.com/techside/xd_010305/
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