Smith and Wesson used to make a fine gun, but now a days, I wouldn't buy one because S&W are a bunch of sell out ***** **** fags.
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As far as the OP is concerned, this is untrue. A .22 will not penetrate the skull (at least for practical purposes,) so head shots are out. It is not a high speed frangible round, so both hemorrhaging and hydrostatic shock are out. Nor does it carry sufficent foot-pounds to know over, say, a gopher, so stopping power is out.
Originally Posted by pauli
Bear in mind the following was told to me by a drunk buddy who, while not a habitual liar, may have been fucking with me in the particular instance;
I heard a horrible story concerning the GWOT where a guy was dispatched to kill a terrorist halawada (google it) in an allied country. As he wanted to frame Shin Bet, he chose a ruger .22 pistol modified to be fully automatic. (Shin bet likes to empty an entire clip of .22 into a guys neck then run off on a motorcycle.)
Without going into too much detail, he wound up chasing the man down the street at 3am with 20 rounds of .22 jostling around his windpipe, and had to bash his head in when he collapsed after a few blocks. So even in the right hands, a .22 is not well suited to a controlled, well planned assassination, much less spontanious, confusing and terrifying self defense.
Start out with a .357 or a .40 - you only really need one firearm unless you're compensating or a hunter. With the money you save, buy your wife a present.
edit: the .38 is a f4g0t round that doesn't kill. Look into the US invasion of the Philippines.
Last edited by SFGOON; 4/07/2007 10:42am at .
So I guess I'm gonna use it to for practice at the shooting range (haven't shot a thing in over 2 decades), and something with manly power but a short (4") barrel (a .357 Magnum Revolver as oldman suggested) ... and a shotgun (I'm on a buying spree) :new_alien
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Go to a gun store that rents guns. Tell them up front what you are looking for. Let them know that you are serious about buying - from them - and they will bend over backwards with advice and assistance.
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I second this. you can be stupid and shoot your friends and not accidently kill them unless it's like, point blank to the eye or some ****.
Originally Posted by fubar
edit: holy **** sfgoon, that story was awesome. more plz.
Last edited by Neildo; 4/07/2007 10:17pm at .
first bit of advice ...when buying a gun don't do this
Did anyone recomend a GAU-19 yet?
We started humbly at G(lock) 19... You jumped a few levels, but it's OK, OP's range of choice just got a bit broader...
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Mossberg 500 series, I would say, relatively cheap, fun to fire, and minimal maintenence time, good for a beginner, if you want a shotgun that is...
Colt Peacemaker. Or a BAR. Or, better yet, a Wind And The Lion-style Winchester.
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