Keichu-Do: Street Boxing Cajun Style!

**BackFistMonkey** · Posted On: 3/13/2006 1:58pm

Originally Posted by FreeSpeech

Besides how credible can this site be when it promotes learning Judo from ones computer? Seems kinda.... I duno.... hypocritical, contradictory to it's purpose.......

God Bless

**** God in Her slimy rectum

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**Judah Maccabee** · Posted On: 3/13/2006 6:56pm

I've purchased Karl Marx's book "Martial Arts Therapy."

I will post my thoughts on it when I've got more time to digest it.

**BSDaemon** · Posted On: 3/13/2006 8:14pm

Originally Posted by FreeSpeech

As it turns out, Soke admits that he was mistaken in arguing that this was his diploma. He did not access the site and did not see the doc. that was posted. He found the diploma after his email conversation with... who was it budhidist? well if you read the thread you know what I am talking about. I might be mistaken but I think he emailed a scanned copy of the diploma to the fellow. Funny that it did not end up here. Agian it does not take any brain power that they do not hand out Laureate to any joe shmoe that happens to be able to put words together.

When I was corresponding with Karl Marx, I sent him a copy of the “diploma” in question

He claimed that this was his “doctorate”, despite it clearly being a “Laureate Of Humanities In Civililizations” for somebody who was already held the title of “Dr. Prof. Ph. D., D.D.”. He also said that his “friend” was in charge of the now-defunct institute and he never stepped foot in Greece.

He later sent me the two attached degree’s... which I had yet to post.

So somewhere in the 6 months between May 4th and December 5th 1979, Karl Marx went from Master to Doctorate and has been unable to provide any verification what institution granted him his Ph.D.

**Judah Maccabee** · Posted On: 3/13/2006 8:18pm

Bud Shi Dist, can you email all of your information you have on the topic to sipsdepaul(at)hotmail.com? It will help me with my review of his book. I'll make sure to give you co-author credit on this, given your huge involvlement on this topic.

***JohnnyCache*** · Posted On: 3/13/2006 8:35pm

Originally Posted by FreeSpeech

It is not fake, end of story. The diploma is real and legit and so is the Leureate.

He did not post here except through one of his students.

And it was not until the end that he realized that the document that was causing all the fuss was his Leureate. It was after this realization that he searched for and found the actual diploma.

Not a single person who has posted on this thread has done or come up with one once of proof that his Diploma is false. Why? Because it is not.

No wonder you guys slander undeserving people and styles. You can not even get the facts straight on one thread.

You know if you understood that I was saying

Your welcome! I know it was posted "what good does it do for us to lie. It only hurt us and that which we are working toward." or something like that. If you know that I was pointing out that the Leureate was not the diploma, then what out of that statement gives you evidence that Soke Marx's Diploma is fake? You were told that it was a simple human error. An error that has been corrected.

Besides how credible can this site be when it promotes learning Judo from ones computer? Seems kinda.... I duno.... hypocritical, contradictory to it's purpose.......

God Bless

Are we talking about the laureate that's from a company not a school, in a country that was in the midst of a civil war when it was issued? And/or the one that legit or not is basically in scalp care? Or the doctorate that took nine months? Refresh me, I haven't read the thread in a while. And learn to speal Laureate for the love of god.

**GIJoe6186** · Posted On: 3/14/2006 12:54am

HOLY SHITTT. I just spent the last hour reading this thread. Heres what I think. Take him up on the fight offer Bud Shi Dist. So the one thing that bugs me this whole time is that he calls it American Martial Arts but it looks just like any other Japanese Karate. Why dont you guys just set up a Louissianna Throw Down? Video tape the whole thing and show us what happens.

Was any video of Cajun Karate posted? Did I miss it in the thread? BTW even if the art is verified bullshido dont take it out on the food. Jumbalaya is awasome.

**FreeSpeech** · Posted On: 3/14/2006 2:06am

Originally Posted by BackFistMonkey

**** God in Her slimy rectum

If this is reguarding my religion, please do not do it agian. At what point did we pass your ability to participate in an intellegent manner? Your vulgar nature does nothing but further the negative image that this site has and displays.

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It is guilt by admitance or guilt by assossiation. Unless someone from the site has made contact with google and asked that something to be done about removing the promo from the feed that supplies this site. And/or puts a disclaimer about the ads not being supported by the site, but in that case why have it in the first place why not go out and get promo.s that support re-enforces what the sight stands for. As is the case in the site disclaimer that it does not promote the pornographic material that its members post up and due to the size of it's admin is unable to patrol the site effectivly enough to keep it clean of such things. Otherwise there is the possibility of a law suit, same with some of the violations of freedom of speech and the apparent sexism, racism, and religious bashings that litter this site. Or the biggest one of them all, the slander that some of the members presents fair evaluation and unbiased reviews. And the list goes on and on and on.

**BSDaemon** · Posted On: 3/14/2006 2:15am

Oh come on now... give us a break.

**meng_mao** · Posted On: 3/14/2006 2:22am

Originally Posted by FreeSpeech

Otherwise there is the possibility of a law suit, same with some of the violations of freedom of speech and the apparent sexism, racism, and religious bashings that litter this site.

How, pray tell, might there be a lawsuit? Brought by whom?

Also, BSD posted the pics your master sent to him. They seem to corroborate the theory that Marx's PhD is fake. Do you have any counter evidence?

**FreeSpeech** · Posted On: 3/14/2006 2:32am

Originally Posted by Bud Shi Dist

When I was corresponding with Karl Marx, I sent him a copy of the “diploma” in question

He claimed that this was his “doctorate”, despite it clearly being a “Laureate Of Humanities In Civililizations” for somebody who was already held the title of “Dr. Prof. Ph. D., D.D.”. He also said that his “friend” was in charge of the now-defunct institute and he never stepped foot in Greece.

He later sent me the two attached degree’s... which I had yet to post.

So somewhere in the 6 months between May 4th and December 5th 1979, Karl Marx went from Master to Doctorate and has been unable to provide any verification what institution granted him his Ph.D.

Yes I am well aware of your email conversations. Just like I am well aware that you actually consider the time it takes someone to respond to your email as a sign on whether they are fake or not (or something to this I do not have the time to hunt through to that particular conversation.) I am also aware that after he realized his error he sent you the diploma, and least he has made the effort to admit when he is wrong. It is more character than I have seen from some....

He has also, and through his students, told you where it came from. And what was done to verify it?
A search on the internet. There was a world that existed pre internet. There is still a large part of the world that is not on the net. So excuse me if your inability to show results in unimpressive. Once again you are only going as far as it is need to go in order to try and discredit someone and stopping there. If you were legit your research would show it.

But it is all a whole lot simpler than all this. Those of us who study Keichu know the truth, and we know the value of the training. And it goes beyond the value of the money that is paid for the classes or the time that is needed for classes. As I am sure that you believe that your "use me as a punching bag" training is. The question that should be asked is which is providing a greater benefit to the world? The style or school where it's students readily admit that they like to fight/ hurt/ and or get hurt. Or one that strives to see everyone succeed? That wishes to be able to give it's students the abilities to gain as much control over their lives as humanly possible?

You seem to have this opinion that unless the training is not done to the point where the trainee's are trying to hurt one another, as would be in a real situation, then there is no value. The martial arts and it's training methods have been around for how long? And even today they are still successful. If you want to promote violence as the only way then do it, don't hide behind some mask by putting what you do on the level of real academies.

I am sure that you are aware of Count Dante, and the organizations he is affiliated with? You wanted to know if Keichu has students that participate in full contact events. I am sure there is, as it happens I knew of one student who also trained Muai Tai and took 1st in a event several years back. By and large this is not a promoted activity because the material is meant for self defense, preventing harm to others not seeking to inflict harm.

God Bless