Gerard Gordoue(SP?), The Nazi?

**Lebell** · Posted On: 8/11/2007 3:22pm

The guy is dutch and i believe he used to have a school closeby my town, in The Hague.
I''ll google it...hang on..yup his dojo is in The hague and on the website -which is in dutch- it says he holds kancho title and got promoted 9th dan kyokushin.
here is the url, browse around, if you see any texts at pics ill translate them for you.

http://www.kamakura.demon.nl/pages/

**sochin101** · Posted On: 8/11/2007 3:31pm

That would be ironic... isn't the Hague where they do all the war crime trials now?
A guy accused of being a nazi teaches in the same town that now holds war crime tribunals.

**Lebell** · Posted On: 8/11/2007 3:48pm

I've seen a tv report about this guy once, i could look it up on youtube but since it was in dutch it wouldnt make much sense to post it anyway.
i remember that he was really a closed off person, they could film him in his dojo, not in his house, they could talk with his trainer but not about his family or personal stuff.
He drove a bike and had a sticker up his helmet which said: think you're tough? Insult a biker'
Also he had non white students in his classes, so i dont think he's a nazi.
But who knows.

**Nathan McScary** · Posted On: 8/12/2007 3:49pm

I have this facination with him. He seems like a legit tough guy no matter how you cut it.

Lebell, if you have any other links or infos on him, I'd be curious to know.

**Lebell** · Posted On: 8/12/2007 4:40pm

I just checked for you but the only good thing i found was the url i previously posted in this thread.
If there's anything you like to have translate it, either pm me or copy past it in this thread and ill provide the translation of the dutch text.

**LI GUY 1** · Posted On: 8/13/2007 2:14am

Yeah guys on the Savate Human Weapon episode you see the fighters doing it before the matches. It is said to be a fighter's salute done before every match.

You even see a fighter doing it to all 4 corners or sides of the ring like Gordeu did. So no Nazi, just a Savate practitioner.

**Nickeroon1987** · Posted On: 8/13/2007 10:55am

I remember hearing somewhere that the original Svastika went counter-clockwise, rather than clockwise, like the Nazi's rendition. Is this true?

**Lebell** · Posted On: 8/13/2007 11:02am

no thats a popular misconception, a swastika can go both ways.

**Tonuzaba** · Posted On: 8/13/2007 11:07am

Originally Posted by Nickeroon1987

I remember hearing somewhere that the original Svastika went counter-clockwise, rather than clockwise, like the Nazi's rendition. Is this true?

The ancient symbol of swastika (one of the basic, oldest human symbols) was/is being used by many cultures in both versions.
Some consider the anti-clockwise version to be a positive symbol as opposed to the clock-wise version, others consider both to bear the same message (on a see-through or vowen flag, for example, you see the swastika in both versions, depending on which side you are looking from...).
After the misuse by the National Socialist movement, however, I really don't envy anybody Hinduist, Navajo, etc...
I would personally not use any kind of swastika, purely because of the stygma it suffered by the Nazis.