Karate for Christ!

**Southpaw** · Posted On: 8/19/2003 3:50pm

Karate for Christ...

Converting Christians into pussies since 1988.

Edited by - amp on August 19 2003 16:02:06

**Sam Browning** · Posted On: 8/19/2003 4:35pm

Notice how Dr Rod Sacharnoski who promoted the head instructor to 6th dan, is himself a 12th dan. Will dan inflation ever cease? this guy also lists a 1st dan in Ninjutsu, now how does that particular art combine with Christ?

Edited by - on August 19 2003 16:36:28

**LLL** · Posted On: 8/19/2003 4:43pm

Well, Juko Kai's Ninjutsu representative John Willson is a 13th dan...

He appears to be a real Bujinkan instructor, though, from what I found in the net. Apparently Hatsumi has added ranks up to 15th.

**tallpaul50** · Posted On: 8/19/2003 6:15pm

Interesting thing I noticed was that under that karate section, they are doing "the traditional martial art: Chutoku Ryu Budo Karate-Do." Never heard of it personally.

Farther down it states "It (Chutoku Ryu) contains elements of historical Korean Tae Kwon Do, Okinawan Kempo and Shorin Ryu Karate, Japanese Shotokan Karate, Jujitsu, and Aikido, American Boxing, Chinese Boxing (Kung Fu) and Filipino Escrima, as well as a variety of traditional weapons."

Yep, that Chutoku Ryu sounds like a real old, traditional system to me!

BS!!!

He who dies with the most toys...still DIES!

**matzahbal** · Posted On: 8/20/2003 10:12am

Tallpaul, like I pointed out, in the head instructiors bio is claims he holds black belts in like several systems or somethng nuts like that. I guess it's traditional to earn as many black belts as possible.

Kungfoolss, Joke of the theory-based stylists, Most laughed at man at Bullshido.com, creator of the Kungfoolss Darwinian Awards that nobody cares for, and the Preeminent Force in the martial arts political arena in his own head.

**Sam Browning** · Posted On: 8/20/2003 11:44am

Hatsumi, may be a good teacher, I honestly don't know much about the man personally. But a lot of people are coming back from Japan with these really high dan ranks, he must be a really easy grader or a soft touch. Personally I think its screwing up his art in America

**LLL** · Posted On: 8/20/2003 11:52am

I think it's that Hatsumi doesn't care about ranks, but he knows that Americans do... Probably those who really want to learn from him, will:

There was a story (sorry, can't quote), about Robert Bussey: Bussey trained a while with Hatsumi & then started begging him for a black belt. This went on for a while. Finally Hatsumi just gave him a belt, and said: "Here is a black belt for you"...

The point being of course that he could have just as well bought one from a shop...

**Das Moose** · Posted On: 8/20/2003 2:27pm

"Tai Chi stripped of it's pagan roots" (paraphrased)

Tai Chi... pagan.

*sigh*

[Das Moose]

Chum Sut is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are beaten.

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**LLL** · Posted On: 8/20/2003 2:33pm

Doh! Obviously you aren't a christian, neither am I (no ****!).

To Christians, anything that believes in anything else than Jesus Christ Our Saviour & the Holy Trinity

= Pagan.

**Das Moose** · Posted On: 8/20/2003 3:12pm

Heh. True.

[Das Moose]

Chum Sut is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are beaten.

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