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  1. jkdbuck76 is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asriel
    Has Emin ever put it on the line and fought in MMA? Of course not, he just sits in his Hobbit Hole Chain Punching till the cows come home.

    or Munchkin Punching.
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    Assuming those letters are all legit, it's quite clear Boztep never had any intention of fighting them. And lol @ Boztep ragging on them for challenging 60+year old Labell after he had jumped (also old) William Chung (?) unannounced at some seminar.
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    Where are these comments they made towards Lebell?
    That I hadn't heard.
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    If you read the letters the Gracies offered to fight in multiple venues and agreed to his conditions. If Boztepe wanted the fight he could have had it. I suppose the _unners out there are conditioned to believe that WC owns all and believe all the crap boztepe says, so i guess they'll believe whatever he says.

    But think about this. Royce won UFC 1,2,4 and won his first fight in UFC 3 but was too dehydrated to fight the next match. There are tons of Gracie Challenge videos on Youtube or any other site. Anyone can look online and see all the documented fights the Gracies have won (and even the fights they've lost. They don't try to pretend it never happened).

    Who has Boztepe ever fought besides sneak attacking an old man and then running away (by the way he was so powerful that the old man was able to get up and finish the seminar like nothing happened). So even if you think the Gracies vs Boztepe thing was both of their faults, how can you even compare the two. It's ridiculous. IF WC didn't suck everyone would use it.
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    Maybe fairer to say that WC can be good as self defense against untrained bar brawler types, but definetely doesn't stack up against people trained in Jiu-Jitsu, MMA and wrestling/grappling as UFC competitions shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsampras3
    If you read the letters the Gracies offered to fight in multiple venues and agreed to his conditions. If Boztepe wanted the fight he could have had it. I suppose the _unners out there are conditioned to believe that WC owns all and believe all the crap boztepe says, so i guess they'll believe whatever he says.

    But think about this. Royce won UFC 1,2,4 and won his first fight in UFC 3 but was too dehydrated to fight the next match. There are tons of Gracie Challenge videos on Youtube or any other site. Anyone can look online and see all the documented fights the Gracies have won (and even the fights they've lost. They don't try to pretend it never happened).

    Who has Boztepe ever fought besides sneak attacking an old man and then running away (by the way he was so powerful that the old man was able to get up and finish the seminar like nothing happened). So even if you think the Gracies vs Boztepe thing was both of their faults, how can you even compare the two. It's ridiculous. IF WC didn't suck everyone would use it.
    Are you saying this ass clown sucker punched Gene Lebell? I want to beat his ass if he even thought about it. Gene is a legand and a hell of a funny SOB. Also he is the prettiest man in MA, just in case you didn't know this.
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    no Boztepe punched William Cheung , the Gracies challenged Lebell
    anyway someone knows the story of Emin VS Bas Rutten ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsampras3
    But think about this. Royce won UFC 1,2,4 and won his first fight in UFC 3 but was too dehydrated to fight the next match. There are tons of Gracie Challenge videos on Youtube or any other site. Anyone can look online and see all the documented fights the Gracies have won (and even the fights they've lost. They don't try to pretend it never happened).
    It looked like Royce's arm was jacked up from fighting Kimo.
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    Emin has built a pretty succesfull org over the years.
    He can not afford to go out and fight strangers that may beat him.

    I have read an interview with him (in German, I think) where he said that he only wants to fight "no rules" with "biting, scratching and eyegouging".

    Well good luck with that.

    He banks on the fact that most people are sane and would not fight him under such conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggboxer
    Maybe fairer to say that WC can be good as self defense against untrained bar brawler types, but definetely doesn't stack up against people trained in Jiu-Jitsu, MMA and wrestling/grappling as UFC competitions shows.
    But that's not what you said here:

    http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...8&postcount=55

    Quote Originally Posted by ggboxer
    Every martial style should be respected, as they all have history. It's how they live up to the history in training that counts. I have been studying the art of Wing Chun. I recently went to a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu school just to reality-check my all round combat skills, since my style is mainly standing up and not going to the ground, while BJJ likes to take things down for a submission.

    I sparred with a couple of the higher degree black belts. Definetely held my own, and was often able to have the advantage using my WC stance and chain punch techniques. But I came away with great respect for another style, which is what studying the martial arts is all about.
    You still haven't forked over the names of the BB BJJers you held your own against, nor the school where this took place.
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