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  1. Roaming East is offline

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    3/30/2007 2:49pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    only if they live to sue your ass.
  2. Bladesinger is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by knuckle dragger
    If it is a justified case of self defense I think it does not matter what model gun you fired.
    You'd be surprised. In some places, the type of weapon used helps determine whether it really was self-defense or not. Hell, in some places, where in your house you shot the bastard is what counts.
    I recall some years ago my uncle telling me that in Florida, if you walked through your house and shot them in your living room, it was murder, if they walked into your bedroom and you shot them, it was self defense. More or less, at any rate.
    I'm not swearing to any of that, though. I just know for sure that different places have different laws on the issue, so always know what they are for your area.
  3. Huevos is offline

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    Posted On:
    3/30/2007 8:19pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I'd opt for option B. The 870 is the toughest shotgun out there. I converted my Wingmaster bird gun to HD and it can go back to being a bird gun in a few minutes.

  4. TEA is offline
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     Style: TKD, Relson GJJ, Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huevos
    I'd opt for option B. The 870 is the toughest shotgun out there. I converted my Wingmaster bird gun to HD and it can go back to being a bird gun in a few minutes.

    Looks good. I opted for B and ordered a $99 replacement barrel from Midway the other night.

    Argued a little with my wife about it last night when she saw the receipt for the barrel. She doesn't want it kept outside of the safe because of our daughter and doesn't think she could get to it fast enough if its in the safe. So, she thinks the whole exercise is a waste of time and money.

    As a demonstration, I walked fairly fast, but not really fast, from our living room to our bedroom, closed and locked the door, simulated hitting the panic button in the closet, retrieved the shotgun from the safe, racked the slide and had it up to my shoulder pointing at the bedroom door all in 7 seconds. I've reinforced our doorframes, so it would take a few attempts by someone with heavy boots to kick the door in. If they break the glass on one of the windows, it would still take them a few seconds to open the window and climb through. Overall, I think my wife would have more than 7 seconds to retreat to the bedroom and get the shotgun out of the safe.

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  5. Nid is offline

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    Posted On:
    3/31/2007 11:13am

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    Yesterday confirmed that sometimes bad luck throws a yahtzee.

    People who usually lock their front door, woke up to hear someone in the house.

    Now, it just turned out to be a drunk dude who got lost, tried a door which happened to work, stumbled inside, disrobed, and lay on the people's couch in nothing but his banana-hammock. But, nonetheless a less than stealthy dude managed to get comfy for many minutes in the home of people who weren't even particularly asleep.

    On the plus side, I got to kimura his incoherent ass.
  6. Roaming East is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kein Haar
    Yesterday confirmed that sometimes bad luck throws a yahtzee.

    People who usually lock their front door, woke up to hear someone in the house.

    Now, it just turned out to be a drunk dude who got lost, tried a door which happened to work, stumbled inside, disrobed, and lay on the people's couch in nothing but his banana-hammock. But, nonetheless a less than stealthy dude managed to get comfy for many minutes in the home of people who weren't even particularly asleep.

    On the plus side, I got to kimura his incoherent ass.
    proving once again that drunken boxing is bullshido
  7. Nid is offline

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    4/01/2007 6:40am

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    But the banana-hammock was actually keeping most people in the room at bay.
  8. TEA is offline
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     Style: TKD, Relson GJJ, Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kein Haar
    But the banana-hammock was actually keeping most people in the room at bay.
    Good thing he didn't try and triangle you.
  9. pauli is offline

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    Posted On:
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    how well does the shotgun fit your wife? if the stock is too long (or the recoil pad is inadequate) she's unlikely to want to practice with it much...
  10. Nid is offline

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    4/02/2007 6:40am

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    Firing the shotgun at close range isn't really the kinda thing you gotta burn into one's muscle memory.
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