218358 Bullies, 7361 online  
  • Register
Our Sponsors:

Results 11 to 18 of 18
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Sponsored Links Spacer Image
  1. Dochter is offline

    Neutral, or nearly so

    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    8,050

    Posted On:
    8/19/2003 9:47am

    supporting member
     Style: BJJ

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    How about them!

    .
    .
    .
    My single chopstick is bad at serving soup, cutting steaks and basting roasts and chickens. Besides that it owns.
  2. Pandinha is offline

    Administrator

    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    San Diego
    Posts
    8,751

    Posted On:
    8/19/2003 11:51am

    supporting memberhall of famestaff
     Style: Muay Thai & BJJ

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    One of the main reasons I stopped lifting while rolling is that after an hour of rolling, or 30 minutes of a private, my whole body is pumped. I've used almost every muscle.

    The next day and subsequent 72 hours, I get DOMS like I was lifting weights.

    I get asked all the time if I lift weights, which I answer no. I've lost over 20lbs doing the Gracie Diet and just rolling. I'm wondering if working out with weights would help or hinder my game.



    ==================
    "When we go to the ground, you are in my world. The ground is the ocean, I am the shark, and most people don't even know how to swim." RCJ Machado
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
  3. Phrost is offline
    Phrost's Avatar

    Join Date
    Jun 1998
    Location
    Cow Town
    Posts
    19,098

    Posted On:
    8/19/2003 12:45pm

    Business Class Supporting Memberstaff
     Guy Who Pays the Bills and Gets the Death Threats Style: MMA (Retired)

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    DOMS?
  4. PizDoff is offline

    .

    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    18,601

    Posted On:
    8/19/2003 1:00pm

    supporting memberstaff
     Style: Grappling

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    " Since that time I've gone through the weight lifting workout rotation 1.5 times and figured I'd post some comments."

    1.5 times?
    i don't get it...

    --
    Hard Work, Patience, Dedication

    Fighting Multiples - http://bullshido.com/article_read.asp?id=162
    Surfing Facebook at work? Spread the good word by adding us on Facebook today! https://www.facebook.com/Bullshido
  5. RealMAs is offline

    Registered Member

    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    100

    Posted On:
    8/19/2003 1:26pm


     

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Check this out;

    http://www.myodynamics.com/articles/ma_articles.html


    I havenít had a chance to go through it all, but it looks good so far.
  6. Dochter is offline

    Neutral, or nearly so

    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    8,050

    Posted On:
    8/19/2003 6:33pm

    supporting member
     Style: BJJ

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    1.5 times?
    i don't get it...
    Well reading comprehension must not be stressed to hard in Canada so we won't hold it against you <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>. I did the first rotation of four workouts (where I mention trying to determine proper weight levels) and then have done the first two components again (legs will be done later today, that would make 1.75 times).



    Anthony, there is no way you're going to gain significant strength without lifting weights (beyond a certain beginning level where body weight exercises are all you need). You may not want or need this added strength though, that's your own decision. I personally also don't think that lifting would be detrimental to your progress, you may not see as much weight loss, due to substituting muscle for fat, but the end result will still be less fat. Additionally increased muscle mass results in increased calorie burning which if your diet stays the same will result in even greater fat losses. The only concern would be for recovery time, but that can be managed.

    I have personally found that it is very difficult to make simultaneous increases in cardio conditioning and strength (tried to increase strength training for races, didn't work at all) but that is not what you seem to be doing.

    Whether you decide to lift or not is up to you but the reasoning that it will impede your fat loss isnít one Iíd agree with.




    .
    .
    .
    My single chopstick is bad at serving soup, cutting steaks and basting roasts and chickens. Besides that it owns.
  7. Pandinha is offline

    Administrator

    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Location
    San Diego
    Posts
    8,751

    Posted On:
    8/19/2003 9:51pm

    supporting memberhall of famestaff
     Style: Muay Thai & BJJ

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Phrost,

    DOMS Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness.

    Dochter,

    I agree with you, on certain points. I know I cannot get stronger without increasing the stress on my muscles. I have been contemplating starting back up. Then I get an injury like today, though mild, makes me re-think my stance on lifting and grappling. It is the same injury I sustained once before in the bicep, after working them out the day before.

    Since I started back up, I have been going 5 to 6 times a week, versus the once or twice a week before I moved closer to the academy. Is there any logic in the though of increasing my "Grappling" muscles and increasing my stamina that way. I am strong naturally, and since I am over 30, have "Old man's muscles" as well as "Tard" strength that make me stronger than the next guy, do I really need to lift weights.

    As with all things in my life, I look at it as a journey of discovery. I've got pics of me at 235lbs when I did Body for Life at about 10 percent body fat, so I know what I have to do for my body to get there. I just don't want anymore disruptions to my training.

    Thanks for your valuable input!



    ==================
    "When we go to the ground, you are in my world. The ground is the ocean, I am the shark, and most people don't even know how to swim." RCJ Machado
    Quote Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
  8. Dochter is offline

    Neutral, or nearly so

    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    8,050

    Posted On:
    8/20/2003 10:00am

    supporting member
     Style: BJJ

    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    If you're working out 5-6 days a week its going to be damn near impossible to start lifting without overtraining, IMO.

    Anyway it sounds at this point like there is no need or desire for you to lift. Down the road you may tune down your workout schedule and then weights may help but like I said it depends what you want. When you're naturally pretty strong technique is the most important thing to work, when you pick up technique quickly or have what you need it would seem strength is the thing to work for.

    What do I know though, I'm slightly overweight and currently without a school to train in.

    .
    .
    .
    My single chopstick is bad at serving soup, cutting steaks and basting roasts and chickens. Besides that it owns.
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Powered by vBulletin™© contact@vbulletin.com vBulletin Solutions, Inc. 2011 All rights reserved.