Mir's Lifting Regime Revisited

**Dochter** · Posted On: 8/19/2003 9:47am

How about them!

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**Pandinha** · Posted On: 8/19/2003 11:51am

One of the main reasons I stopped lifting while rolling is that after an hour of rolling, or 30 minutes of a private, my whole body is pumped. I've used almost every muscle.

The next day and subsequent 72 hours, I get DOMS like I was lifting weights.

I get asked all the time if I lift weights, which I answer no. I've lost over 20lbs doing the Gracie Diet and just rolling. I'm wondering if working out with weights would help or hinder my game.

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**Phrost** · Posted On: 8/19/2003 12:45pm

DOMS?

**PizDoff** · Posted On: 8/19/2003 1:00pm

" Since that time I've gone through the weight lifting workout rotation 1.5 times and figured I'd post some comments."

1.5 times?
i don't get it...

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**RealMAs** · Posted On: 8/19/2003 1:26pm

Check this out;

http://www.myodynamics.com/articles/ma_articles.html

I haven’t had a chance to go through it all, but it looks good so far.

**Dochter** · Posted On: 8/19/2003 6:33pm

1.5 times?
i don't get it...

Well reading comprehension must not be stressed to hard in Canada so we won't hold it against you <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>. I did the first rotation of four workouts (where I mention trying to determine proper weight levels) and then have done the first two components again (legs will be done later today, that would make 1.75 times).

Anthony, there is no way you're going to gain significant strength without lifting weights (beyond a certain beginning level where body weight exercises are all you need). You may not want or need this added strength though, that's your own decision. I personally also don't think that lifting would be detrimental to your progress, you may not see as much weight loss, due to substituting muscle for fat, but the end result will still be less fat. Additionally increased muscle mass results in increased calorie burning which if your diet stays the same will result in even greater fat losses. The only concern would be for recovery time, but that can be managed.

I have personally found that it is very difficult to make simultaneous increases in cardio conditioning and strength (tried to increase strength training for races, didn't work at all) but that is not what you seem to be doing.

Whether you decide to lift or not is up to you but the reasoning that it will impede your fat loss isn’t one I’d agree with.

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My single chopstick is bad at serving soup, cutting steaks and basting roasts and chickens. Besides that it owns.

**Pandinha** · Posted On: 8/19/2003 9:51pm

Phrost,

DOMS Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness.

Dochter,

I agree with you, on certain points. I know I cannot get stronger without increasing the stress on my muscles. I have been contemplating starting back up. Then I get an injury like today, though mild, makes me re-think my stance on lifting and grappling. It is the same injury I sustained once before in the bicep, after working them out the day before.

Since I started back up, I have been going 5 to 6 times a week, versus the once or twice a week before I moved closer to the academy. Is there any logic in the though of increasing my "Grappling" muscles and increasing my stamina that way. I am strong naturally, and since I am over 30, have "Old man's muscles" as well as "Tard" strength that make me stronger than the next guy, do I really need to lift weights.

As with all things in my life, I look at it as a journey of discovery. I've got pics of me at 235lbs when I did Body for Life at about 10 percent body fat, so I know what I have to do for my body to get there. I just don't want anymore disruptions to my training.

Thanks for your valuable input!

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"When we go to the ground, you are in my world. The ground is the ocean, I am the shark, and most people don't even know how to swim." RCJ Machado

**Dochter** · Posted On: 8/20/2003 10:00am

If you're working out 5-6 days a week its going to be damn near impossible to start lifting without overtraining, IMO.

Anyway it sounds at this point like there is no need or desire for you to lift. Down the road you may tune down your workout schedule and then weights may help but like I said it depends what you want. When you're naturally pretty strong technique is the most important thing to work, when you pick up technique quickly or have what you need it would seem strength is the thing to work for.

What do I know though, I'm slightly overweight and currently without a school to train in.

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My single chopstick is bad at serving soup, cutting steaks and basting roasts and chickens. Besides that it owns.