technique problems

**BackFistMonkey** · Posted On: 3/23/2007 6:36pm

Originally Posted by truepwrz

i dont know any san shou gyms close.... so i learn muay thai and judo to make up for it i was kicking a 100lb punching bag, i learned muay thai for like 15 days then last month i shin kicked someone in the knee and injured my lower right shins so i took a month off and i just started back today and when i shin kick i feel quite some pain

Wow ... that is just ... wow .

So have you ever had a conversation with your coach about this ?

**Torakaka** · Posted On: 3/23/2007 8:18pm

Originally Posted by truepwrz

i told him it hurts, he checked out my medical conditions saying that my shins are perfectly ok now, the he just told me quit being a girl and take the pain like a man

Different ways of kicking will hurt more. If you bring your leg up and swing it down in sort of an arch and hit at a bit of a downward angle it will generally hurt your shin much less than if you kick at a bit of an upward angle or even straight in.

**BackFistMonkey** · Posted On: 3/23/2007 8:28pm

Originally Posted by Kidspatula

Different ways of kicking will hurt more. If you bring your leg up and swing it down in sort of an arch and hit at a bit of a downward angle it will generally hurt your shin much less than if you kick at a bit of an upward angle or even straight in.

I would like to add the caveat of " with proper training and conditioning " .
I see truepwrz's situation as a lack of both (no offense) .

I personally think it hurts less because I miss knees and elbows more often while angling the kick down into target .

Getting more power into an unconditioned leg may not be the best idea .

Oh and truepwrz ... try hitting the bag a little higher up for a bit , it should be a little softer .

**Torakaka** · Posted On: 3/23/2007 8:31pm

Well I'm purely referring to my experience kicking the thai bag. I find that if I kick sort of upwards it hurts my shin a fair bit more than if I kick at a downward angle. And of course you really should generally be kicking with the shin pointed at a bit of a downward angle as that shows you're actually turning your hip over.

**BackFistMonkey** · Posted On: 3/23/2007 8:32pm

Originally Posted by truepwrz

i told him it hurts, he checked out my medical conditions saying that my shins are perfectly ok now, the he just told me quit being a girl and take the pain like a man

Sounds like a good plan , start there . Seriously did you think he was kidding ? Conditioning only feels good if you are a masochist .

**Torakaka** · Posted On: 3/23/2007 8:44pm

It really does make a pretty significant differance.

**BackFistMonkey** · Posted On: 3/23/2007 8:44pm

Originally Posted by Kidspatula

Well I'm purely referring to my experience kicking the thai bag. I find that if I kick sort of upwards it hurts my shin a fair bit more than if I kick at a downward angle. And of course you really should generally be kicking with the shin pointed at a bit of a downward angle as that shows you're actually turning your hip over.

But if you turn your hip over and miss ... you have all this inertia and it makes you spin around .

You are right about the bag . I thought about it and realized in Hapkido we were using wavemasters which are considerably more forgiving than a standardly filled heavy bag and that was the last time I used round kicks without a MT flavor . Took me a while to get used to normal bags again . I found cutting my kicks downward ( there by increasing the power ) actually caused me to hit higher up on the bag after a few attempts at abusing my right shin on the bottom 12 inches of the bag (not a banana bag or a 6 footer , I have yet to kick one of those neato MT bags that touch the floor ) .

**PPlate** · Posted On: 3/23/2007 10:38pm

Originally Posted by El Macho

Uh? Your MT instructor told you to use your instep instead of your shin?????? Are you sure you got that right????

Here, let me help with reading comprehension.

today is the first day i started back muay thai, my coach talked to me about me using my instep instead of the shins to kick and keep changing stances was wrong, i was wondering is keeping in one stance and using shin to kick really that important??? I am not questioning my coach but i was just wondering do all pros and amateurs fight like that???

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**PPlate** · Posted On: 3/25/2007 10:04pm

Originally Posted by truepwrz

thanks plate. i tried out the trick annatrocity gave it does help alittle but i wonder how long would it take to stop hurting

what, the shin? give it 1 - 2 weeks rest, or take it lightly at least. Once it heals up, it'll get stronger. Rinse and repeat till they turn to iron.

Just don't go banging away when they're still hurting, you'll be doing more harm than good.