Tiger Klay's Krav Maga - Latest Updates??

**Grandnat** · Posted On: 5/08/2007 6:11pm

Yes I have know about his new school for a couple weeks.

it is called "The Bootcamp"

www.bootcampfw.com

www.myspace.com/bcmaf

In fact I have one of his business cards, which is where I got the above information.

He'll never die!! :)

It looks like he has learned a few lessons and has cleaned up his act a little in regards to outlandish claims on his web page, but it still has that stench.

**Sam Browning** · Posted On: 5/08/2007 7:51pm

He's doing the "We are a black belt School" pitch which in 8 or so lessons leads to the NAPMA style contract for oh 4-5 years.

**Sam Browning** · Posted On: 5/08/2007 8:01pm

Correction, while I don't know for certain that he is using the NAPMA sales system, that sentence is identical to what is known as the NAPMA pitch.

**Arclight** · Posted On: 5/08/2007 9:49pm

LOL at the new resume. Gokor (who cant remember EVER training Klay) and Ricardo Johns, who want nothing to do with this loser, are still prominently featured.

Lucky's dad is a notable absence. I guess Lucky and his wife finally put some bit of fear into him. You know it wasnt because Tiger manned up and decided he wouldnt soil a dead man's memory.

**Trollzfeckaff** · Posted On: 5/08/2007 10:23pm

Same shite different name. It seems Lieger will never learn.

**nasarel** · Posted On: 5/09/2007 12:17am

Originally Posted by fouldude

i heard that it's a boot camp approach to martial arts. Perhaps nasarel can confirm..

I hate you people (especially fouldude) for drawing me back into this crap... .:eatbaby:

I visited Tiger's website, and I have to ask about this sentence:

"It doesn't really matter how strong you can kick or punch if you can't perform when your life is in danger," explains Sensei Klay, a student of Mike Lee Kanarek (Founder of Haganah Israeli Self Defense) Darren Levine, (Krav Maga U.S. Chief Instructor) and 6th Degree Black Belt of Krav Maga."

Since we know from the KM people that Tiger is not a black belt in KM, is the bolded part at the end of that sentence meant to describe Darren Levine or Tiger? If it was meant to describe Levine, why isn't it in the parentheses? Is this purposely drafted to be unclear?

Under "Leadership Training":

Assitant Instructor training and preparation for those who would like to later be considered to test for teaching certifications in Fast Attack (under Fast AttackWorld Wide)

What the hell is "Fast Attack"? Oh, now I get it - it's "brand new" (see next item), which translates into "I made it up like my last fake martial art."

From the school's MySpace page:

"Brand New Reality Based Self Defense, Phenominal Fitness, and Kickboxing Center located in North Fort Worth................. Call 469.261.7846"

May I buy a vowel? I'd like to buy an extra "e" to be used in the word phenom-e-nal.

On the schedule:

Grappling and Ground Survival 8:00-8:30

30 minutes? That many? If Grandnat was teaching the class, he would only need 15 minutes....

**Don Gwinn** · Posted On: 5/09/2007 6:22am

Better put one more post in the old mega-thread linking to this thread . . . . doesn't sound like it's over.

On to the testimonials: The famous Tanya, much discussed in the last thread, has a testimonial up. She says people were amazed at her ability to fight three male black belts from different styles "very successfully." I believe I'd like to see that one myself.

But the one I'm going to share with you comes from one Cameron Mikael, supposedly a Marine Corps infantryman. Do you suppose it's Cameron Mikael or Tiger Klay who decided how to spell "Marine Corps?"

Originally Posted by Cameron Mikael

Cameron Mikael
US Marine Core
1st degree Black Belt Israeli Attack Safe Defense Systems
I have had the honor of being trained and taught By Sensei Klay.
I am curently Serving in the Marine Corps Infantry, and I can say with full
confidence that I would gladly take the skills and defenses that I
have learned from Sensei Klay, straight into combat. I have trained in 5
other schools in Lubbock, including the BJJ school, and have found
that Sensei Klay's understanding of real life situations is amazing. This
especially rang true when I realised he and my DT Instructors share the
same exact views on the same scenarios and idiology of self defense.
I am so confident in this system that I teach my fellow marines the Israeli Attack Safe Defense System
knowing it will not only make them street ready, but more importantly, combat ready.
Yes, it is that real.

I'm sure I'm just a typical cake-eating civilian judging what I don't know, but I've never met a Marine who couldn't spell "Marine Corps."

**Sam Browning** · Posted On: 5/09/2007 2:16pm

Aw Don, its obviously an Israeli commando thing, we wouldn't understand.

**1bad65** · Posted On: 5/09/2007 4:37pm

Or a Russian Mafia thing.

**Don Gwinn** · Posted On: 5/09/2007 7:02pm

That's probably it. It's probably a group within the USMC--I've heard that various gangs have various levels of presence in the military. The Russian Mob obviously calls their group "The Core."
It's clever, because if an officer hears you say it, he just thinks you're talking about the Corps. And if someone reads a written communication, chances are he'll assume you're a con man with **** for brains who can't tell homophones apart.