Unless its the end of the world as we know it (EOTWAWKI), then ammo availability shouldn't be too much of a concern. Both 12 gauge and 7.62x39 are readily available at Wally World and any sporting good store that carries ammo. Even if it was EOTWAWKI and zombies were roaming the streets, you should still be able to stock up from the sources mentioned above.
Originally Posted by knuckle dragger
For zombies, the 12 guage is more effective, but its always good to have a good heavy short sword and buckler handy for when you run out of ammo. Of course, for serious zombie killing, nothing beats a GAU-19 in the back of dually. Zombie Killing Thread
As for proficiency, probably easier to get reasonably proficient with a shotgun, but the SKS isn't all that complicated of a weapon, so either one should be fine with a little practice. Once advantage of the SKS over the shotgun is that its faster to reload, since it uses stripper clips.
As for the wife, depending on her stature, she may find the SKS easier to handle in terms of recoil. As pointed out, though, 7,62x39 would pose a concern with overpenetration, even if using JHP. If you like the idea of an SKS, though, why not consider an M1 Carbine? The FMJ .30 cal carbine round has a bit of a bad rap, but the JHP rounds are man stoppers, but are less prone to overpenetration than the 7.62. Quick to reload, too, with detachable magazines.
You referring to some sort of laser?
A holographic sight?
Or a red-dot, proper?
Me, I like the holo-sight. Got one on my duty AR. There's no eye-relief. :blob9:
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Thanks a lot for the input guys. I think I am going to go with the Shotgun. Now to decide which shotgun. Hmmmmm.
May I ask what is limiting you to those two options? I would think a handgun would be prime. What is the nature of your perceived threat? Are you interested in LTL weapons as an alternative? Especially for your dainty wife, a nice air taser might be the best option for home defense (people sometimes are reluctant to pull the trigger on a firearm with the intent to kill, especially females.)
Honestly, it sounds like you need to learn more about firearms in general. Grab a book by Massad Ayoob.
I am reasonably profecient with handguns from working as an armed guard. I have been trained on revolver and automatic. Nothing really in depth though, just firing at a fixed target from a standing stance.
I guess I want a weapon with better distance than an handgun, so that makes me lean towards a rifle again. There I go waffleing. I hate being indecisive.
The reason I am thinking SKS is because it is cheap and semi auto and idiot proof. I am open to any suggestions that also fall in those lines.
What kind of training have you had? What is your weapon of choice?
There is a certain pucker factor that everyone has when they hear a shell getting racked.
I am no authority when it comes to firearms, but why do you consider the range of a handgun a limiting factor? What kind of property are you defending?
Originally Posted by knuckle dragger
Everyone has been giving you good advice, but I can't help kibbitzing when the subject is firearms.
Use light field loads and the missus should have no prob. accustomizing to a shotgun.
9mm carbine is a good idea. Ruger also makes one that is also available in .40 cal, and takes their pistol magazines so you have an excuse to buy another handgun . . .
As for SKSess, I have two and they are seriously fun. I would consider them practical within limits; rugged, not nearly as good as an AR-15, but not nearly as expensive. My wife has shot them and had no problem. She's a macha Chicana who had shot her Daddy's .30-30 before, and found the recoil "less". The cartridges are about the same power, but between the weight and the gas operation she felt the SKS was easier to shoot, and the recoil fairly controllable.
I have one of the SKS-"D"s that came out just before Bush I passed the "crime bill", it takes the AK detachable 30 round mags* and is way fun.
(*and 40 round mags. and two 30 or 40 round mags with a mag clamp. heh heh heh)
Well, I went and put money down on a Chinese SKS. I will be getting it in about 2 weeks. It is in really nice condition. Spike bayonet. I don't know what model it is. It does not look like you could quickly put in a higher capacity magazine though.
I hope you like your SKS!
The "D" model was a factory mod by one of the importers- China Sports I think. There was a booklet on doing the mod yourself you used to be able to find at gun shows, but I don't have the machinist skill to try it or even to judge if its a good idea or bad craziness.
There are aftermarket extended plastic banana mags, but they're crap. There IS an aftermarket replacement fixed box mag that holds 20 rounds instead of 10; its pretty rugged, a bit bigger than the original and loads with stripper clips.
I also played with muzzle brakes. They're not really needed but if your wife has a problem shooting the new toy, the twist-on AKS-74 style break actually seemed to work; reduced the recoil a bit and made it more straight-line, less muzzle rise.
Lots of sighting options available too.