Dog Style: the Chinese Grapple?

**LI GUY 1** · Posted On: 3/11/2007 9:49pm

So I remeber reading this book a few years ago that described a lot of different Chinese styles. It was a small red paperback that had summaries on each style, its strength, origin, etc. A brief book but interesting.

Anyway my point is I came across the Dog Style Kung Fu as one of the styles. It mentioned it was a very dangerous style. Practitioners would try and scissor the legs to take the opponent down and finish him on the ground.

I **** you not, I'm going to get find this book as I read it at a local library.

Lastly it was mentioned the best way to fight a Dog Style practitioner was to be very fast/evasive and try and throw objects at them. Pretty much get a weapon. I'm positive, but will be sure in a few days, that the book was printed pre-UFC. It was obviously not popular and made no mention of any other groundfighting or MMA. All Chinese kung fu.

Anyways enjoy in anticipation, anyone else heard of this?

**ojgsxr6** · Posted On: 3/11/2007 10:04pm

From what little research I've done, I found that dog style is mainly a striking art. Think takedown and ground and pound. I've never heard or read of a Chinese art that would be comparable to BJJ.

**Hands** · Posted On: 3/11/2007 10:07pm

A guy demonstrated a little bit of the style, he picked it up somewhere in south america. I haven't seen much of it though. Yeah, there's some groundfighting components in some chinese styles but you sure don't see much of it. I know there's some mixed in with the Mongolian I'm learning but there's not much discussion of whats mixed in.

I like the defense against the style, just like you would against any dog. Does it mention a rolled-up newspaper?

**MartialArtN00b** · Posted On: 3/11/2007 10:16pm

Ive heard about it while perusing steve morris' biography. And unfortunately,this vid was posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcPlwAOkl6I

But any animal has a degree of grappling such as takedowns and throws. But i figure its trained so poorly as to become nonexistant.

And you gotta look pretty hard for people to even talk about it.
http://venus.secureguards.com/~aikid...ceb49354c69d27

Scroll down on the link above, and youll see jason delucia poste excerpts of an old chinese manual on grappling.

**socratic** · Posted On: 3/11/2007 10:39pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_Kung_Fu

It would appear to be fairly rare, since Wikipedia has little beyond origins and a link with women who had been foot-taped.

**GRAB MY WRIST** · Posted On: 3/11/2007 10:42pm

I kid you not... but each time my dog have his little fun with his bitch, I see lots of guard pulling and mount play. I guess, men do follow animal's behaviour.

GMW

**WorldWarCheese** · Posted On: 3/11/2007 10:48pm

I think I might've seen an add for your little red book a loooooong time ago when I first saw TMNT and figured I'd either be a Kung Fu master or a Ninja when I grew up. Doggy Style (you should've seen this coming) focuses mainly on leg sweeps and then kicks to KO the person while you're both on the ground and ****. The only sub I saw related to them was a takedown that looked a lot like a foot sweep.

I got most of my info from some website about the "Traveling Scholar" where for exhorbinant amounts of cash you travel to train in China with "Masters" the Doggy Style was one of them (as well as those o-so-famous Shaolin Fighting Monks)

**LI GUY 1** · Posted On: 3/12/2007 1:46am

Cool, obviously it was probably practiced like in the vid, as all the other kung fu usually is. Two man drills and forms. I just thought it funny how it was refered to as an unorthodox and dangerous style. That video fits in line with the description of "scissoring" to take down.

**glad2bhere** · Posted On: 3/12/2007 6:24am

The only "dog style" that I am familiar with seem to rely on seizing, mounting or pinning a person and then using a striking or kicking technique to inflict damage. I guess one could say that the classic "lapel-grab with a cross-punch" would be a kind of quintessential "dog technique" from this POV. Is this the sort of material people are talking about? Thoughts?

Best Wishes,

Bruce

**Guizzy** · Posted On: 3/12/2007 12:37pm

Originally Posted by LI GUY 1

Lastly it was mentioned the best way to fight a Dog Style practitioner was to be very fast/evasive and try and throw objects at them. Pretty much get a weapon. I'm positive, but will be sure in a few days, that the book was printed pre-UFC. It was obviously not popular and made no mention of any other groundfighting or MMA. All Chinese kung fu.

There is a style of Chinese Grapple, a pretty important one in the history of kung fu and possibly one of the oldest kung fu styles.

Shuai Jiao. It's very similar to Judo; a lot of throws.

*EDIT: Silly me, just noticed that's what Hands do.