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    I had a look through a copy of the "Forza" book in a bookstore - it's not presented as any sort of martial art, it's just a theme workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DdlR
    I had a look through a copy of the "Forza" book in a bookstore - it's not presented as any sort of martial art, it's just a theme workout.
    Quote Originally Posted by PizDoff
    "You want to make sure you cut your opponent's head off honorably," explains Debbie Ross, a soft-spoken 49-year-old... with a first-degree black belt in sword.
    A themed workout which apparently has "Black belts" :beatdead:
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    On behalf of all kendo schools everywhere, I would like to appologize, and insist that we would never endorce such a twisted practice. I must now go commit ritualistic suicide.

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    You know, it doesn't say that Debbie person has a first degree in forza, but in sword. Maybe that means kendo and the person writing the article just didn't mention it?

    I think you guys are taking this a bit too seriously. It's a theme workout, I've never heard it described as a SD class when I worked in a gym that had forza classes. There's no knocking people out (no contact, remember?), and weapons practice can work the body in many different ways, just like anything else.

    Cripes, you guys sounds exactly like people who make fun of MMA or BJJ.

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    It seems like a bad workout though. Unless they switch hands a lot, they're all gonna get tennis player arms (i.e. one ripped and one dead-looking).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry Konument
    A themed workout which apparently has "Black belts" :beatdead:
    You're reading too much into the article. The reporter didn't say that the Forza system includes any sort of belt ranking, just that one of the participants in that class had a "black belt in sword", which is meaningless in itself; she may have meant "a black belt in kendo" or something similar.

    The Powerstrike website includes information on certifying in teaching Forza, but there's no mention of belts; nor was there any mention of belt rankings in Ms. Montagnani's book.

    Once again, it's obviously an exercise system *based on* the movements of Japanese swordsmanship and it isn't meant to be anything more than that. Criticising it because it won't teach you how to fight is completely missing the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry Konument
    A themed workout which apparently has "Black belts" :beatdead:
    Like it was just said above, the actual class does not seem to have a belt rating system.
    This was more a focus on the quality of journalism spreading misinformation.
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    i dont see the problem

    i wouldnt do it because i'd feel stupid, i sure as hell wouldnt pay money for it

    but its probably a good workout/socialising which is all they really claim it is.
    workout + minor larping = sword-chuks workout

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    Yeah, cause it's smart to jump into contact sports while recovering from organ transplant surgery.

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