help me train

**truepwrz** · Posted On: 3/07/2007 3:25pm

help me decide i have a workout on strength and muscle and one on endurance mit/pad/bag work should i do one on a day and on another or just stuff them in one day rest one day and repeat

**LI GUY 1** · Posted On: 3/07/2007 7:50pm

If you do both on the same day, do the strength first and later do the endurance. Split them far apart if done on the same day.

**truepwrz** · Posted On: 3/07/2007 8:04pm

thanks =) you should give me some tips on how to build a body like yours lol =D

**LI GUY 1** · Posted On: 3/07/2007 11:34pm

Eat one small child per day for protein requirements. Work hard. Genetics probably plays a role in how you look though.

Seriously though go to

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=436935

Sherdog is a good site as far as its Strength and Power forums go. The rest of the site sucks. Read that link and any info in the Strength and Power forum stickies should help out as far as routines go.

**metarat** · Posted On: 3/07/2007 11:40pm

You left out the importance of drinking lots of beer to perfect those six-pac abs!

--How old are you? At a certain age recovery time becomes important . . .

**LI GUY 1** · Posted On: 3/08/2007 12:01am

He's like 16.

**Robot Jesus** · Posted On: 3/08/2007 1:32am

t nation also has some good stuff, but take it with a grain of salt. especaly when they talk about supliments, as the site is owned by a supliment companie.

**metarat** · Posted On: 3/08/2007 9:49am

http://members.tripod.com/~CenteneraL/index.htm

This guy's site is called "Hardgainer" and has a lot of thoughts on training for those who do not easily accrue lots of muscle mass, including guys who are skinny. He's also really into Bruce Lee and emulating his training philosophy.

I don't do all the stuff he advocates, but I've done some more weight lifting and working out in years past, and I think this guy has some good ideas. Its worth a read if you really want to research how best to work out.

**LI GUY 1** · Posted On: 3/08/2007 1:34pm

I wouldn't emulate Bruce to build strength. Low Body fat yeah but not strength (although I'm sure he was strong).

That site seems a little odd. I've never seen a hardgainer type site that didn't reccommend full body workouts. Full body workouts are great for MA as it is more time efficient also.

He dosen't do any horizontal rows (bent over), workouts last 30 minutes, seems odd. Also, he is only doing 3 exercises?

I would think especially for MA weight lifting you need a major pull/press in every plane. Horizontal pull/press, vertical pull/press, and squat/deadlift or two other big leg movements. Thats what I do and then I add in other power exercises like power shrugs, push press/jerk/snatch once in a while. Always striving to increase the weight lifted or the reps. I workout in the 1-4 rep range a lot and have good results.

Training like that (low rep/high weight on big movements, info from sherdog strength section) I have a 315 rep bench, 455 dead, mid 300's squat (test tonight), 210 overhead, and low BF%.

**truepwrz** · Posted On: 3/08/2007 7:21pm

well here is my weight workout(the other work out i had before i dont think it works for me and for some reasons i think weights work better)

Mon: Primary- Biceps, Triceps /// Secondary- Legs
Tues: Primary- Abs, Back /// Secondary- Chest
Wed: Rest
Thurs: Primary- Chest, Shoulders /// Secondary- Biceps
Frid: Primary- Legs /// Secondary- Abs, Back
Sat: Rest
Sunday: Pure Bagwork, heavy cardio