Mark Hatmaker's "Complete Grappler" (Moved from MABS)

**Askari** · Posted On: 2/25/2007 5:13pm

I have his submission book and savage strikes, there really is nothing revolutionary in there, but nothing that jumps out as a reason not to buy them either.

**Boyd** · Posted On: 2/25/2007 5:47pm

Originally Posted by roly

personally i liked the mark hatmaker stuff simply because it showed me things from a non bjj perspective

bjj is all well and good, but sometimes it just gets too complicated and focuses on too many irrelevant details.

Such as.

**MadeOfOlives** · Posted On: 2/25/2007 7:20pm

Originally Posted by roly

there is a few things from his "beyond bjj" that were plain stupid (double armbar anyone?), but there were other things that were very nice and i had never seen anywhere else.

I don't know if its the same technique, but there is a double armbar in bjj- often you can get it from the guard when the other guy has no idea what he is doing, and trying to simply choke you with both hands like a crazy person.

**Condemned** · Posted On: 9/07/2009 4:01am

Originally Posted by GrnDnPndR

Angry Welsh don't listen to these guys,they are obviously BJJ enthusiasts.They obviously badmouth anything they unfamiliar with.I happen to own THE COMPLETE GRAPPLER DVD SET as well as BEYOND BRAZILIAN JUJITSU (which compares both styles and exposes the weaknesses in BJJ)and most of his material thats on dvd and book format.His method of instruction is the best that i have seen.It's easy to follow all the techniques ,which are performed in detail.Of course you will need a partner to execute these techniques.I highly recommend his material.

I'd agree. I would encourage watching his RAW DVD's over the commercial and book stuff. They are more down and dirty, straight forward, easy stuff. Also, a lot of info in a short time and technique specific. The submission wrestling explanations are worth listening too and considering. They are, as said above more interesting when contrasted and compared to BJJ.

**TacticalOne** · Posted On: 9/02/2011 6:10pm

Yes, i have seen it and really like it but I have a wrestling background. This is geared for the wrestler so could greatly enchance your aresenal if your a BJJ guy. I a big fan of Hatmaker, one thing I did was rent it online at goldstarvideo.com it took about 3 days to come in. I also picked up some mark furey there. Over all it video set and worth buying

**crappler** · Posted On: 9/03/2011 2:01pm

All books and DVD's and video are basically martial arts porn. If you want the real thing, go to class.

Sometimes the porn is better than the real thing. Usually not.

**Hedgehogey** · Posted On: 9/03/2011 2:09pm

We haven't had a catch wrestling thread in a while. Which is a shame, as this ancient one showcases a gallery of the forum's best posters who have left (sans The Wastrel).