Thread: wristlocks:Who has used them?
2/24/2007 1:02am, #1
wristlocks:Who has used them?
Who here has ever used a wristlock succesfully in a fight or full contact match? And if so, what kind was it?
2/24/2007 1:04am, #2
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Do you mean standing wristlocks, or wristlocks performed while ground fighting?
2/24/2007 1:07am, #3
Standing but I guess any of the standard Aikido/ Japanese JJ style locks.
2/24/2007 1:08am, #4
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I've had brown belts in my BJJ class tap me out w/ wrist locks while rolling, but that was back when I was just starting out - they can't catch me with that stuff anymore :-)
Of course, that just means they find other painful ways to get me to tap out...
2/24/2007 1:23am, #5
I've been tapped with one once by a purple belt in BJJ. As for standing, I had this debate with a former gymnastics instructor so we decided to do some wrestling and try to take each other down with wristlocks. We found that maintaining a grip on someone's hand is a difficult thing to do, especially when sweat is involved. Technically speaking they are not a good technique because contact with the person you are attacking is minimal, and therefore he has ample space with which to move to nullify the attack or regain his balance. They can also just yank their hand out or pull it to their chest if you actually managed to secure a stable grip.
Do they work? Any technique "works", it's just a matter of how often it does.
2/24/2007 8:58am, #6
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I've done one once when a guy grabed my shirt, so the grip was easier. He was drunk and went for the stupid drunk guy grab shirt and punch.
Once I grabbed his wrist and ducked the punch, I heard a load/short crunching sound. Found out afterwards it broke his wrist. It didnt take him down, but it stoped that part of the fight.
So for anecdotal, yes on a drunk guy that had only ever been in hockey fights. And I was sober.
Cant imagine it working on someone who knew how to grapple."Sifu, I"m niether - I'm a fire dragon so don't **** with me!"
2/24/2007 9:30am, #7
Maybe grabbing fingers and snapping them is more reliable? An MMA fighter once told me that. Another reason why wristlocks are may be poor from a technical standpoint is that the force is applied very close the fulcrum, which makes for poor leverage. If you have to wristlock, get them on the ground, establish positional control and isolate the limb. Standing wristlocks are generally the domain of aikidoists and ninjers.
2/24/2007 9:33am, #8
The only one I have ever used is the gooseneck wristlock, often from a 2 on 1 or on the ground. the only time I have EVER heard of anyone using them is to control a drunk
2/24/2007 9:38am, #9
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A blue belt tapped me once with a kote gaeishi while I was trying to open up his guard. It wasn't painful, but while in his close guard, I couldn't do anything to escape it, not even move. Interesting experience.
-- ED --
The no-gi instructor at our school teaches wristlocks here and there. I've only taken a few classes with him (I'm mostly doing gi), so I don't recall all the details. But in any case, he slaps wristlocks (mostly hyperflexing) when people attempt escapes from americanas, kimuras or armbars. He tends to pass his own wrist behind the opponent's wrist to act as a fulcrum.
But he stresses that those are "secondary" attacks, and that you need to have positional control to attempt them.
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2/24/2007 9:52am, #10
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Or who wasn't drunk.