Posted On:2/23/2007 3:40pm
Style: creonte on hiatus
I have a few short "Crazy Monkey" clips on youtube, and one of those is for a jab-cross-shovel hook combo.
In the comment section, someone asked an interesting question:
From: punching power (youtube user)
When you throw a shovel hook, how come there is no weight distribution?
The weight is not transfered to the rear leg, the weight stays at the lead leg. I think your punch will be weak and you will be off balance...
What's your rationale for this?
Another person replied the following:
From: shishi99 (youtube user)
have heard people say keep weight on lead leg to get power and others say switch to rear. i personally keep it on the front now and it feels stronger. less of a swing and more my body driving the punch in.
So basically there is one person advocating to transfer the weight to the rear leg, while another one advocating keeping the weight on the lead leg. I personally prefer the second approach as it feels more natural... to me, anyways.
What would be the consensus of more experienced strikers on this matter? How could one transfer the weight to the rear leg when throwing a shovel hook? Or more to the matter, what's the correct or more predominant way to execute this punch?
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Posted On:2/23/2007 4:13pm
I was taught that you want to have even weight distribution on most of your punches, including the shovel hook.
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Posted On:2/23/2007 4:23pm
Style: Kitty Pow Pow!!!
Since the shovel hook isn't really like regular hooks, it doesn't really make sense to use the footwork of a hook for it. The force of the punch is driving forward, so you want your weight to go with the punch. In this combination, you're already moving your weight forward with the cross and the shovel hook just continues the forward motion. I think the first person talking about transfering the weight to the back foot is confusing the shovel hook with a normal hook.
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Posted On:2/23/2007 6:16pm
Style: FMA, dumbek, Indian clubs
Wow, those are some relatively unretarded comments by youtube posters.
Posted On:2/23/2007 6:44pm
I know!!!! But that's because I aggressively remove anything retarded from the clips I have. You should see the **** I get on a regular basis... "LOL. Kungfu bitchslap... ur homo, bye."
Honest to God, I removed one just like that yesterday from the "Crazy Monkey" open hand slap clip I have in youtube :tard:
Posted On:3/15/2007 10:03am
Style: San Shou Kickboxing
i prefer to put the weight on the front leg, and then drive my shoulder round letting the arm whip round with it. when fighting from a southpaw stance i normally come out of a duck twisting my body to the right and then whipping it to the left as i land the punch.. i do a similar thing with shovel hooks except i try and twist in a more diagonally upward left motion. but for this method you need to have the weight on the lead leg and a wider stance than normal, in a side on stance it might be better to have your weight on the rear leg
Posted On:3/20/2007 3:56pm
BTW, this particular paragraph from Wikipedia clarified a lot some of my questions on footwork:
For the pugilist, footwork is to be deft and simplistic, allowing the fighter to maneuver into and out of striking range as quickly as possible. Proper footwork is also key to generating sufficient power and fluidity of technique in the basic strikes shared between the major boxing styles. During the jab, the lead foot should pivot inward in time with the strike to thrust the leading shoulder forward, allowing the jab its swift, snapping energy. During the cross, the rear foot pivots inward to launch the rear shoulder forward, allowing the cross a good deal of its strength. During the left hook, the lead foot pivots in the same manner as during the jab, though often with more extreme range of movement. The right hook's pivot is identical to the cross. The lead uppercut is a combination of two pivoting motions, first the rear foot pivots inward to properly set up the uppercut, then both feet pivot simultaneously to the direction opposite of the striking arm to generate torque throughout the body. The rear uppercut is a direct reversal of the lead uppercut. To maintain balance, both feet will pivot or slide as appropriate.
Posted On:3/23/2007 3:48am
Style: Muay Thai, Boxing
For a left hook to the head, I get more power by shifting weight to the rear leg. Power generation for a left hook is a horizontal arc.
For the shovelhook, I get more power shifting weight to the front leg. Power generation for a shovelhook is a diagonal, upward arc. Totally different from a regular hook.
Just try both on the bag and you'll get your own answer. I get power for the shovelhook by positioning my chest over the top of my left knee. You need your body there in order to drive your knuckles upward. If you shift your weight to your rear leg, you'll be to far away, and there is no way for you to generate power upwards.
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