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  1. FingerorMoon? is offline

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    Hi all,

    Saw this on the UG, someone asked Tito what his training routine was.
    He responded:

    Tito:
    I lift six day a week. Two diffrent muscle a day, four sets of each, twenty reps of each set. Eat and sleep a lot. Stamina and endurance is the key.

    Interesting stuff.
    Ortiz is a big guy and I wouldn't have picked at all that he was using 20 reps/4 sets.



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    well did he become big that way?

    i think he is MAINTAINING his strength and using the higher reps for "Stamina and endurance is the key."

    NOT powerlighting

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  3. FingerorMoon? is offline

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    Point taken, but it would be hard to maintain muscle put on through heavy lifting by doing endurance sets.
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    "NOT powerlighting"
    lol

    Well we don't know his goals.
    " hard to maintain muscle "
    it's not like he is sedentary
    *shrugs*

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    training with weights and what an athlete eats are more important than what rep scheme a fighter uses...

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    FoM... research is increasingly showing that high-rep sets can indeed build more mass than low-rep sets. It's all about delivering maximum overload to the muscles. Some people get more overload with high weight low reps, and some get more overload with higher reps, etc. Me personally, I'm somewhere in the middle, but more towards the higher rep side of things.

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    FoM... research is increasingly showing that high-rep sets can indeed build more mass than low-rep sets. It's all about delivering maximum overload to the muscles. Some people get more overload with high weight low reps, and some get more overload with higher reps, etc. Me personally, I'm somewhere in the middle, but more towards the higher rep side of things.
    This sort of "research" is often repeated with the substitution of "strength" for "mass". This can most often be heard being issued forth from those bastions of fitness information: personal trainers at chain gyms.

    Unfortunately this sort of thought fails the under used statistical test I like to call "common sense". Additionally it is a concept that bothers me to no end. To use the most common (male) barometer of strength the bench press as an example, you're going to always have a much higher single rep bench doing something like 335# for 3 sets at 5-6 reps than you are doing 225# for whatever absurd rep count you want to include. Of course this may differ from whatever personal definition of strength you have but it is definitely inaccurate or incomplete to say that you'll be as strong lifting lower weights at high reps as you would be doing heavier weight for fewer. It all depends on what you want.

    As far as Tito goes, if he is indeed a very large (not just cut) individual I'd wager he does indeed work in high weight/lower rep components. The information posted may be his typical, leading up to a fight workout. Leading up to a fight I'd suspect that he focuses on endurance rather than look for strength gains.




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    I used to think the same thing..... but then I read a book called Power Factor Training. They cite a lot of credible research as well as testimonials from many powerlifters and bodybuilders.... it's a good read. I myself and not totally convinced, but it's given me something to think about.

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    Dochter-It would seem you are agreeing with me....


    "As far as Tito goes, if he is indeed a very large (not just cut) individual I'd wager he does indeed work in high weight/lower rep components. "
    i think he DID do them but doesn't do them prefight


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    never said I was disagreeing with you...

    anyway I say it better <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>



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