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  1. Teh El Macho is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebrous
    I remember hearing that Hatmaker's submission books are hackery. Is his writing on striking to be trusted?
    I haven't seen his submission books, but I have his "takedowns" book which is ok as takedowns books go. I also have "Savage Strikes" and "Boxing Mastery", which I think are decent.

    Boxing mastery does mention the lead jolt and lunge jab on page 90 and 91.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenebrous
    I remember hearing that Hatmaker's submission books are hackery. Is his writing on striking to be trusted?
    From my experience, he hits the nail on the head pretty well. I wouldn't use his book as a way to learn how to strike (because that's retarded), but if you have a decent striking background, he gives you a good way of looking at how you train and use your strikes, along with some nifty stuff like his insertion shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas
    From my experience, he hits the nail on the head pretty well. I wouldn't use his book as a way to learn how to strike (because that's retarded), but if you have a decent striking background, he gives you a good way of looking at how you train and use your strikes, along with some nifty stuff like his insertion shots.
    I like his take on vertical hammer/axe strikes and forearm insertion shots - I'm not quite comfortable with the horizontal variations of those, but that's just me. Other than that, his books are serving me as a good guideline now that I'm finally getting into MMA.

    They may have a little too much brevity in the techniques, but that's what I like about them - they are a condensed guideline, which I find easier to read than an overly dense (but good) book like Teri Tom's "The Straight Lead" (too dense for me to read... again, just a personal preference.)
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

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    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas
    From my experience, he hits the nail on the head pretty well. I wouldn't use his book as a way to learn how to strike (because that's retarded), but if you have a decent striking background, he gives you a good way of looking at how you train and use your strikes, along with some nifty stuff like his insertion shots.
    I'm taking boxing now but I'm not any sort of striker. I'm looking for supplemental material that I can read while I pretend to be working.

    Anything called an "insertion shot" has to be worthwhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Macho
    I like his take on vertical hammer/axe strikes and forearm insertion shots - I'm not quite comfortable with the horizontal variations of those, but that's just me. Other than that, his books are serving me as a good guideline now that I'm finally getting into MMA.

    They may have a little too much brevity in the techniques, but that's what I like about them - they are a condensed guideline, which I find easier to read than an overly dense (but good) book like Teri Tom's "The Straight Lead" (too dense for me to read... again, just a personal preference.)
    My absolute favorite stuff from there was the clinch insertions. Specifically the popper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas
    My absolute favorite stuff from there was the clinch insertions. Specifically the popper.
    Yeah, that one can be nasty. I've seen it used a couple of times in UFC matches during GnP. So, I guess it is legal, neh?

    Cap'nAsia, thanks for the post. My son in law has my current copy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emevas
    My absolute favorite stuff from there was the clinch insertions. Specifically the popper.
    You mean the inside forearm shot? I'm still trying to figure out how to put some powah behind it.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

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    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Just think of it as throwing a straight right from the clinch while hitting him with your forearm/inner elbow joint. You can try it out on the heavybag. It packs a very surprising walop.
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