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    I bought a trainer back in January 2006 to get me through the frustration of a shitty codebase I was working with at the time. Couldn't close it at all with my left and got maybe 5 reps (just blasting away as El Macho so nicely put it). By the end of the summer my work frustration had paid off and I could do a couple of sets of 30 with both hands and bought a #1. I could close it the first time with right and do a couple of reps and almost close it with my left.

    Unfortunately I changed jobs quickly after that and I've stuck to maybe 10 reps with my right and 5 with my left ever since. Seems that I've reached the point from which on you really have to train to improve.

    Funny thing though. I was surprised to notice that being able to pump the grippers pretty good does not translate that well into gi gripping. That **** requires a lot more stamina than insane gripping power.

    Any ideas on how to develop that while not in the gym? Just holding my grip for as long as I can (or in sets of 3x1min maybe?) with the trainer?
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    For gi gripping, get a sandbag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
    Closed the #1 with each hand out of the packaging.

    Where the hell did I put that thing anyway?

    When I purchased it I was about 195#'s and not doing any serious weight training or anything besides bjj.

    If you buy a trainer, get at least a #1 too.
    QTF.

    Also, IronMind is now selling "helpers" that you can attach to a gripper and add about 22 extra pounds of resistance. I need to get that one (and perhaps the 1.5 CoC) since I'm having a hard time closing the gap from the #1 to the #2.

    The helper is only $12 bucks, so why not.



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    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

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    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    1/08/2008 7:48pm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadmeat
    For gi gripping, get a sandbag.
    Please elaborate on this.

    EDIT: googling helped. I'll have to look deeper into this.
    Last edited by hpr; 1/08/2008 7:50pm at .
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    Quote Originally Posted by hpr
    Please elaborate on this.

    EDIT: googling helped. I'll have to look deeper into this.
    http://www.grapplearts.com/Grip-Strength-Training.htm <<< down to the bottom of the page


    DieselCrew.com - Quick Grappler Sandbag Circuit

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWH5YkMnkDY


    And more...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzSInlfckGM

    Ross Clip at mark 0:44

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX2M-kb-TIE





    ps... you can do towel chin ups or use towels/thick ropes as handles when doing bicep curls, tricep kickbacks or deadlifts.
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Sorry mate, I should have been a bit more specific - I just didn't want to hijack the thread.

    Here are two articles on training with a sandbag:
    http://functionalhandstrength.com/ca...g_sandbag.html
    http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/291/

    Ironmind also sell sandbags:

    Sandbag set
    http://www6.mailordercentral.com/iro...sp?number=1390
    Sandbag Shell
    http://www6.mailordercentral.com/iro...umber=1390%2DA
    Inner Sandbag
    http://www6.mailordercentral.com/iro...umber=1390%2DB
    and the complete sandbag training guide
    http://www6.mailordercentral.com/iro...sp?number=1400

    I hope that helps.
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    Oh, hpr, I forgot to say. In grappling you need support grip more than crush grip. The moment you take the gripper to do reps as fast as possible without training for support grip, your support grip will invariably go away.

    You can still use the CoC by doing static holds - grip the **** out of it and keep it closed for as long as you can. Take a 2-3 minute break and repeat. Another variation is to rotate your wrist as you hold the gripper closed. You can also do gripper strap holds:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx3yWKb3AeE


    Deadmeat' post is right on with the sandbag thing. Also, you can integrate towels in your workouts as already mentioned. Towel chin ups, towel curls, towel deadlifts, towel shrugs, anything that makes you flex your wrist, elbows and/or shoulders while keeping a grip on the towel. Dumbell/kettlebell swings with a towel are also good (as at the beginning of this clip):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St6jTNYJEmY

    Get a 2" thick, 1 to 2 ft long dowel or metal pipe and tie a dumbbell to the end of it. Then try to do a curl while keeping the dowel/pipe horizontal (switching grips so that you do that with the dumbbell in front and behind you.)
    Read this for flexibility and injury prevention, this, this and this for supplementation, this on grip conditioning, and this on staph. New: On strenght standards, relationships and structural balance. Shoulder problems? Read this.

    My crapuous vlog and my blog of training, stuff and crap. NEW: Me, Mrs. Macho and our newborn baby.

    New To Weight Training? Get the StrongLifts 5x5 program and Rippetoe's "Starting Strength, 2nd Ed". Wanna build muscle/gain weight? Check this article. My review on Tactical Nutrition here.

    t-nation - Dissecting the deadlift. Anatomy and Muscle Balancing Videos.

    The street argument is retarded. BJJ is so much overkill for the street that its ridiculous. Unless you're the idiot that picks a fight with the high school wrestling team, barring knife or gun play, the opponent shouldn't make it past double leg + ground and pound - Osiris
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    Thanks for the tips guys :)
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