Thread: Thai clinch in push hands
9/06/2013 4:19pm, #1
Thai clinch in push hands
When I was practicing push hands regularly (2-3X a week), there was no grabbing/hooking the back of the head or neck, even for moving step, which is fine as a limited skillset but I always felt that hooking the head is absolutely part of learning to break posture and neutralize. So, when preparing for something like sanshou we would add in the Thai clinch. In retrospect, our clinchwork from the shoulders up wasn't great but wasn't terrible either. I've been doing some park sparring with my eskrima guys and we clinch grapple as a warmup, and I pretty much use moving step + Thai clinch + front headlock as my game (attack posture and the rest will follow).
Is there tai chi that allows/uses controlling the head/neck in moving step push hands? The stuff I've seen on youtube is mostly the Anchorman style
Do you grab the back of the head in moving step? How does a tai chi player respond to such an attack? I'd fight for the inside position and/or apply forward pressure while trying to roll my hips underneath my shoulders.
9/07/2013 8:24am, #2
- Join Date
- May 2012
- Tianjin, China
Never gone for a neck / head grab during push hands.
I'll give it a go tomorrow and see what happens....
9/08/2013 10:03pm, #3
We headwrap/neck grab all the time. Not to some sort of plum grip, necessarily. An example from my old Boston teacher:
9/10/2013 7:54am, #4
Try this for a defence.
Get your right arm and put your hand on your left shoulder slide your forearm under your chin. Get your left hand and put it on their left shoulder so you have a figure four.
Not super great for thai as you get kneed and elbowed. But will prevent a break in posture like nobodies buisness.Whitsunday Martial Arts Airlie Beach North Queensland.
9/10/2013 3:16pm, #5
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9/12/2013 2:05pm, #8
In addition to that back of the head techniques, there are also front of the head ones, like "eyebrow mopping":
http://dojorat.blogspot.com/2008/10/...g-eyebrow.html“Most people do not do, but take refuge in theory and talk, thinking that they will become good in this way” -- Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics, II.4
9/21/2013 8:25am, #9
- Join Date
- Nov 2006
- Guilin, China
Neck grabs are illegal in Tuishou competitions, but certainly a part of Taiji. No need to look elsewhere. =)
Last edited by MaartenSFS; 9/21/2013 8:30am at .