finding a different art

**Kempo Chris** · Posted On: 2/09/2007 2:55pm

I was looking to find a new art to learn. I have been training 7 years in a style based in kempo with a mix of kickboxing, grappling, and filipino arts. I currently am a second degree black belt and manage a martial arts school. I am not learning much from my instructor as of late, Unfortunatley things have been more focused on the business rather than the art. I was looking for something realistic, effective, but also that still has all the philosophies and wisdom of the the martial arts. Just looking to get some input, because I'm goign crazy trying to find a good place/style.

**Doctor Z** · Posted On: 2/09/2007 2:57pm

Personally I find that Muay Thai is not only effective, but it also has a lot of culture.

However if you want the 'wisdom' and such, I think you're looking for full-contact karate: Enshin, Kyokushin, Ashihara etc.

**USMC0351** · Posted On: 2/09/2007 2:58pm

Wish I could help. I'm a bit of a noob to martial arts. Maybe check out a good MMA school and do the spiritual stuff on the side.

**Neildo** · Posted On: 2/09/2007 2:59pm

Originally Posted by Doctor Z

However if you want the 'wisdom' and such, I think you're looking for full-contact karate: Enshin, Kyokushin, Ashihara etc.

You forgot Daido Juku.

**Doctor Z** · Posted On: 2/09/2007 3:01pm

Originally Posted by Neildo

You forgot Daido Juku.

I forgot a ton, Kyokushin has so many offshots, there's no way I can remember them all.

IMO, Daido Juku is hot **** though, and the best style of full-contact karate.

**Uechidude** · Posted On: 2/09/2007 3:46pm

Originally Posted by Chris Guardian

I was looking to find a new art to learn. I have been training 7 years in a style based in kempo with a mix of kickboxing, grappling, and filipino arts. I currently am a second degree black belt and manage a martial arts school. I am not learning much from my instructor as of late, Unfortunatley things have been more focused on the business rather than the art. I was looking for something realistic, effective, but also that still has all the philosophies and wisdom of the the martial arts. Just looking to get some input, because I'm goign crazy trying to find a good place/style.

1st where are you located ? Have you tried a www.google.com search, or www.ask.com search for MA's schools in your area ? Also, what exactly are you wanting to learn ? Mauy Thai is good,(strong stand up) boxing,(good for hands) BJJ, JJ, or GJJ, Judo, if you want a good ground game, if you want to stick closer to, TMA/Karate look into Enshin Ryu, Kyokushin, Uechi Ryu, Wado Ryu, Shito Ryu, Shorin Ryu. Or go one better, and train in a few MA's. Its really up to you . Good Luck on your search. Also Welcome to Bullshido!

**Doctor X** · Posted On: 2/09/2007 3:48pm

For me to POOP ON!!

Anyways, have you considered t3h grapple?

Seriously. Since you have stand-up experience, why not consider one of the grappling arts? Culture? Judo is Japanese--cannot get more culture-obsessed that that! I have no knowledge of tradition with regards to, say, BJJ--other than they rent your back out to NASCAR and force you to pronounce "R" incorrectly . . . but, seriously, it would be a new thing that could only ADD to what you know now.

--J.D.

**gringokahn** · Posted On: 2/09/2007 4:37pm

This seems posted in the wrong forum...shouldn't it be in noobietown?

**meataxe** · Posted On: 2/09/2007 5:50pm

Originally Posted by Doctor X

For me to POOP ON!!

Anyways, have you considered t3h grapple?

Seriously. Since you have stand-up experience, why not consider one of the grappling arts? Culture? Judo is Japanese--cannot get more culture-obsessed that that! I have no knowledge of tradition with regards to, say, BJJ--other than they rent your back out to NASCAR and force you to pronounce "R" incorrectly . . . but, seriously, it would be a new thing that could only ADD to what you know now.

--J.D.

Brazil has culture too!