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Originally Posted by Wolf
He is has ranking in both KSW and HRD. He trains and teaches both tradional as well as modern techniques using this systems as his base. It can be done, but there is more profit in shoveling bullshit than truth.
Jeremy M. Talbott
Originally Posted by Phrost
Originally Posted by D.Murray
Originally Posted by hangooknamja88
I guess what I meant was using it at higher belts during the transition. Once the kinks get ironed out I would gradually start working it down the belt scale. Eventually I would see it as (using KS belt system average to black is currently 4 years, might increase that)...
Originally Posted by GoJu - Joe
white belt: light contact, no head kicks, no takedown sparring
yellow: light contact, no head kicks, basic throws and takedowns, and a little ground (mostly positional)
blue: medium contact, full body contact, throws, takedowns, full submissions
red: hard contact (basically full mma)
brown and up: perfect technique
I would also hold off on all weapons introduction until brown belt as I think the more practical stuff is the most important part.
KSW and HRD histories are defintily fabricated, but they aren't identical to HKD. They've both grown in slightly different directions. However, yes, they are similar enough. That's why I grouped it all together. I would totally like to see Pro-HKD opened up a bit for related styles. At the very least I think the current KS tournaments should be modified to include a Pro-HKD like fighting division at the blackbelt level.
Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
I've heard of this, but haven't actually checked it out. I'll do that.
Originally Posted by miguksaram
Why only the blackbelt level?
Just to get the ball rolling. In the current state of things you wouldn't want to see any underbelts doing this kind of fighting. Then as the system grew stronger I'd see this kind of division in the lower belts.
There is one problem with all of these very good ideas: other people. They just don't want to actually have to train hard in order to say that they're a black belt.
But it has got me thinking... if someone manages to fix HKD, then maybe even worse-afflicted styles like TKD can be fixed as well.
Yeah. Right now this is all theoretical. I think what it's going to take is, like was mentioned earlier, someone starting their own Kuk Sool/HKD/Whatever school around these precepts and trying to grow it. I, personally, don't see the WKSA ever instituting the above mentioned changes because they pride themselves on being a "Family Martial Art," which is all well and good except that the majority of people aren't gaining the abilities they think they are.
Hence my comment about the need for internal pressure.
Originally Posted by kwoww
The thing is, it can still be a "family martial art." Just because the training is live doesn't mean it has to be unfriendly. Maybe having separate sparring and technique classes might do the trick.
Originally Posted by Wolf
A lot of good ideas listed here. At my school The Higher belts go easy on the white and yellow belts but If they want to throw on some headgear and they have a mouthpiece we will go full contact. There is a guy who comes to class who is a yellow belt but amateur boxed so we always go hard. One thing though you can't force some people to spar real hard some people are not into it I have noticed. With those people I just go moderate and let them enjoy it at their own pace.
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