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  1. jun17 is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2007 12:42pm

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     Style: taekwondo

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    Fear Knot Martial Arts in Pennsylvania: Beware!

    I was referred to this school way back in 2000. I went in for a visit. You wouldn't believe what the head instructor told me. I asked him if he had a sparring program of any sorts (lancaster, pa sorely lacks a full contact program besides a kickboxing school in the "city") The head instructor essentially told me to leave because he was afraid I came to "beat up his students". He now have 2 satellite schools in which it's "kid's only". I thought my old taekwondo school was bad, this guy's ONLY objective was to make a profit, and he admitted it practically. Whether or not this was reported earlier, I think it's important that people stay away. It's garbage like this that makes Taekwondo and it's practitioners look terrible. However regardless of the style's lack of practicality, it's the blatant disregard to ANY sort of standard that makes this school the bane to the martial arts world.

    http://www.fearknot-martialarts.com
    Last edited by jun17; 2/06/2007 12:50pm at .
  2. G8 is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2007 1:01pm


     Style: BJJ

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    Martial Arts Instructors

    Franklin Menges, 2nd Dan
    (1st Dan Kukkiwon)
    Youth and Adult Martial Arts Instructor
    Youth Developmental Programs Director

    Franklin began his martial arts training in 2000 and earned his blackbelt in 2002.

    Michael Sigman, 1st Dan
    Youth and Adult Martial Arts Instructor
    Youth Developmental Programs Instructor

    Mike began his martial arts training in 1997. He earned his blackbelt in 1999.


    heh heh
  3. Ronin.74 is offline

    霍氏八极拳徒弟

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2007 2:17pm


     Style: CMA,Muay Thai ,Yudo,TKD

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    And TKD nut riders wonder why their art gets no respect.
  4. datdamnmachine is offline
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    Jiu Jitsu - Sometimes passing just isn't an option.

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2007 2:30pm

    supporting member
     Style: BJJ, Unauthorized Judo

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    Quote Originally Posted by G8

    Martial Arts Instructors

    Franklin Menges, 2nd Dan
    (1st Dan Kukkiwon)
    Youth and Adult Martial Arts Instructor
    Youth Developmental Programs Director

    Franklin began his martial arts training in 2000 and earned his blackbelt in 2002.

    Michael Sigman, 1st Dan
    Youth and Adult Martial Arts Instructor
    Youth Developmental Programs Instructor

    Mike began his martial arts training in 1997. He earned his blackbelt in 1999.


    heh heh
    Wow, if that doesn't say it all right there. Just...wow! Two whole fucking years. And here I am all happy about the fact I made blue belt in BJJ in around 18 months. What the hell was I thinking.
  5. Art is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2007 2:41pm


     Style: TKD, wrestling, BJJ

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    Check out the master of the school. KKW 3rd dan "master" Wonder if kukkiwon knows he claims this title at 3rd degree.
  6. rsobrien is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2007 3:26pm


     Style: 유도 (Judo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jun17
    (lancaster, pa sorely lacks a full contact program besides a kickboxing school in the "city")
    I am sure you can find some Amish farmer knowledgable in the ancient art of 6 Finger Fist, they're not all buggy riding pacifists.

  7. Uechidude is offline

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    2/06/2007 3:49pm


     Style: Uechi Ryu

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    Last time I checked in TKD, you have to hold the rank of 5th degree to be considered a master ? nm Coda Scott claims to be a master as a shodan! What do I know.
  8. daGorilla is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2007 3:56pm


     Style: Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uechidude
    Last time I checked in TKD, you have to hold the rank of 5th degree to be considered a master ? nm Coda Scott claims to be a master as a shodan! What do I know.
    I totally agree that this school looks like utter crap for any adult or serious martial artist -- and it's certainly nothing TKD can be proud of.

    However, they seem to be pretty honest about it. They make no claims of t3h d3adley TKD, and you'd have to be a complete idiot not to notice that they cater to kids and kid programs.
  9. Uechidude is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2007 4:18pm


     Style: Uechi Ryu

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    Quote Originally Posted by daGorilla
    I totally agree that this school looks like utter crap for any adult or serious martial artist -- and it's certainly nothing TKD can be proud of.

    However, they seem to be pretty honest about it. They make no claims of t3h d3adley TKD, and you'd have to be a complete idiot not to notice that they cater to kids and kid programs.
    True as that may be, it still makes many other schools look bad if they do have kids programs etc. Kids programs are not the issue, poor quality of training is the issue. As this dojo appears to lack any type of quailty, 2 yr BB's are a give away. Not to mention the cardio a.k.a. Tae Bo BS.
  10. NastyHaggis is offline

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    Posted On:
    2/06/2007 4:56pm

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     Style: WTF Taekwondo & Hapkido

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    Most Taekwondo schools recognize 6th degree and above as master, though some recognize 5th degree as an "associate master" or some such. I've never heard of a 4th degree being considered a master in Taekwondo, and certainly nothing lower than that.
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