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  1. SpringHeeledJack is offline
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     Style: Boxing; Sub. Grappling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wataboxa
    He took a beating. Kimbo had knocked out many a guy with the same technique but this guy Sean wasn't having it. His face looked the Elephant Man's but he fought till Kimbo couldn't get up and he had huge hand in this of course. 99.9% percent of fighters would have given up long before.
    You really haven't watched many fights have you?


    Now lovely Lucifer, in hell so stark
    King, and lord of sin and pride
    With some mist his wits make dark.
    He send thee grace to be thy guide


    HE LOOKS LIKE A TINY BEAR MIXED WITH A CAT, AND THAT IS THE MEANEST ANIMAL MIXTURE EVER, BEAR FOR FUCKING STRENGTH, AND CAT FOR FUCKING MEAN!!! ************.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debul937
    You really haven't watched many fights have you?

    MMA No. Boxing Hundreds. Street fights at least 20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wataboxa
    Well props to him. He gave Kimbo all he could handle. But I think was Sean's heart and fighting spirit more so then his MMA background.
    I agree 100%. Gannon is out of Boston and was/is a New England Golden Gloves Champ.

    He then got absolutely brutalized by Brandon Lee Hinkle in UFC:55. One of the worst beatings I've ever seen in the ring. Hinkle is no slouch for sure (choked out by Monson), but he is also not a top tier or mid tier MMA heavy weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenJonas
    I agree 100%. Gannon is out of Boston and was/is a New England Golden Gloves Champ.

    He then got absolutely brutalized by Brandon Lee Hinkle in UFC:55. One of the worst beatings I've ever seen in the ring. Hinkle is no slouch for sure (choked out by Monson), but he is also not a top tier or mid tier MMA heavy weight.
    Excellent! I have been around fighting for most of my life and I can tell when a fighter is outclassed. Kimbo was Outclassed by the Guy that wanted it more. That usually happens to those who brag and boast of their fighting prowess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wataboxa
    However, watching Mike in his prime reminds me alot of UFC and Pride fighters. In that Tyson would come out with a no holds barred type of warrior style.
    Really this is what I picture:




    P.S. Ali is my favorite boxer and the first time I saw this picture it shocked me.

    It is all about what you are used to in your training.
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    Well, your internet searching skill is much better then mine. Sit have some tea. LOL!!

    Ali was the best BOXER of all time. No question about that. Tyson is a whole different animal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoJu - Joe
    Also I think it's easier for an elite grappler to get moderate striking skils that support his (or her) grappling than it is for an elite striker to develop grappling skills that support their striking.
    Whats your reasoning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axelton
    Whats your reasoning?
    Because all a grappler has to do - for a degree of success in MMA, is get their striking good enough not to get KTFO and to set up their shoot.

    Where as a striker has to learn the sprawl, which means to me they have to learn to shoot to understand the sprawl, and then how to sweep out of a many bad positions on the ground if they want to get back up.

    A grappler can learn to bob-weave and throw cros/jab/body shoot combo's in amuch shorter time than a striker can learn, shrimp / half guard / sweep and all those variations.

    Look at Randy Couture, great fighter, but his level of striking is not great, however it is good enough to support his Greco base and get him close enough to people (besides Chuck) to set up his underhooks and take them down.

    Randy isn't tring to knock people out by setting up leg kicks and then hitting them in the head like GSP.

    So that's why I think it would take a striker longer to learn good grappling than a grappler to learn striking.
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    What if the striker is a naturally gifted athelete?
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     Style: BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wataboxa
    What if the striker is a naturally gifted athelete?
    What if the grappler is?
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